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IWD had a few comments on player behavior that i wanted to discuss.

we havent met·7/28/2019, 2:10:03 AM·2 votes·953 views

I am putting this here specifically because P.B channel is actual cancer where everyone gets mass downvoted and there is little to no discussion occurring. But in a video he said "Someone can literally int in games and not get banned but if you call them out for it you get punished"

Now this was used to justify him calling someone the r slur. And before you bite my head off, no i dont think using that as an excuse is justifiable. But frankly, it's a video game, if words hurt you, take a walk or go see a therapist or something, or just hit mute. Thats just my opinion though. But more on the topic itself, I agree with him but also disagree. I think people who quite literally int, should get punished, but they don't. And i feel as though if you tell someone to stop inting you shouldn't really be getting punished for it. (I say this from my very first account that had 6 years of game play on it got banned for telling a troll to stop fucking crying and play the game. You dont have to believe that sentence but frankly i have no reason to lie because in the above sentences i made it pretty clear using slurs is unjustifiable.

But I think i agreed with the CORE of his message, the fact that people inting goes unpunished due to a very out dated system. It prioritizes feelings in the incorrect way. If im going to be blunt about this, we have all talked shit in one game or another, there is a reason the mute function exists, if you don't like what is being said, you are welcome to /fullmute all. And disable all chat too if you want. But with inters you dont get that luxury. Someone going 0/4/0 building armor into an ap matchup and using passive aggressive language to suggest that they dont want to win, it's hard to just ignore it as it makes the other 4 players suffer while 1 troll gets to walk unscathed.

I wanted to have this discussion so feel free to tell me what you do or don't agree with in this post below :3

14 Comments

Dynikus7/28/2019, 2:25:06 AM6 votes

it's harder to detect intent of ones actions than it is to simply look at someone's words. Using the game IWD got banned for as an example, the misplay dom specifically targets in on is when tahm got killed by the rengar he had just seen go into the bush. Can you say without a shadow of a doubt that tahm was intentionally dying there? or did he just misjudge rengar's inconsistent leap distance?

let's even say tahm was inting. Does flaming make the situation better? two scenarios:

  • the guy is inting, iwd yells at him, and he continues to int because his actions are getting a rise out of people. That was his intent all along, and it's wroking. or
  • he's not inting, iwd yells at him, and he feels worse now. He's certainly not going to play better because of it, and still all of nothing was accomplished.

There's zero reason to flame someone, while there are legitimate reasons to do poorly in a game.

Jamaree7/28/2019, 2:25:18 AM3 votes

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I am putting this here specifically because P.B channel is actual cancer where everyone gets mass downvoted and there is little to no discussion occurring. But in a video he said "Someone can literally int in games and not get banned but if you call them out for it you get punished"

Now this was used to justify him calling someone the r slur. And before you bite my head off, no i dont think using that as an excuse is justifiable. But frankly, it's a video game, if words hurt you, take a walk or go see a therapist or something, or just hit mute. Thats just my opinion though.

Shouldn't that logic also apply to inters though tbf?

But more on the topic itself, I agree with him but also disagree. I think people who quite literally int, should get punished, but they don't. And i feel as though if you tell someone to stop inting you shouldn't really be getting punished for it. (I say this from my very first account that had 6 years of game play on it got banned for telling a troll to stop fucking crying and play the game. You dont have to believe that sentence but frankly i have no reason to lie because in the above sentences i made it pretty clear using slurs is unjustifiable.

I agree that actual inters should get banned, but the problem is not only is it hard to pick up actual inters, unless they are saying it in chat, but they can't just punish people for one game worth of it.

But I think i agreed with the CORE of his message, the fact that people inting goes unpunished due to a very out dated system. It prioritizes feelings in the incorrect way.

He feels anyone who does bad in his games is inting however, people tilt man, people feed, we need to get rid of actual inters, but if everyone who did poorly got banned, everyone would be banned, you, me, IWD, everyone.

If im going to be blunt about this, we have all talked shit in one game or another, there is a reason the mute function exists, if you don't like what is being said, you are welcome to /fullmute all. And disable all chat too if you want. But with inters you dont get that luxury. Someone going 0/4/0 building armor into an ap matchup and using passive aggressive language to suggest that they dont want to win, it's hard to just ignore it as it makes the other 4 players suffer while 1 troll gets to walk unscathed.

Why is it ok when you do it then, when you go 3/10/4, or 2/6/3, 0/4/1, or 5/13/2?

SuicidePlank7/28/2019, 2:13:08 AM2 votes

But I think i agreed with the CORE of his message, the fact that people inting goes unpunished due to a very out dated system. It prioritizes feelings in the incorrect way.

No. In high Elo (D1+) people usually don't report each other after games. That's basically it.

preternatural7/28/2019, 3:04:01 AM2 votes

the idea that r%%%%% is a slur is r%%%%%ed. don't brakes r%%%%% a vehicle? actual technical term, whatever though. I bet sjdubya's get upset when f1 commentary mentions the r%%%%%ation of those brakes.

sorry I can't take any thread treating this word as a slur seriously, despite me agreeing with the premise here lol, curse my principles.

just one thing, don't ban dom, he was doing it for the people.

Busty Demoness7/28/2019, 3:33:11 AM2 votes

The reason people can outright intentionally feed and not get punished is because there's tons of people reporting for bad games AS IF they were intentionally feeding. This means the system can't identify the actual cases because it had a bunch of junk clogging it, making the threshold even harder to hit.

That said, it also sounds like you believe the mute button is an excuse to be toxic in chat with the reasoning of "if it bugs you then you need a therapist/to go outside" if it's bugging you. I find that your opinion is based on entitlement since it lines up with a lot of players who say "there's a mute button, so I shouldn't be punished". When someone is getting so worked up over a game they're lashing out at allies, it's not those lashed at who need help. Additionally, it doesn't matter why someone is worked up and being toxic in turn, EVEN IF THE REASON IS AN INTENTIONAL FEEDER ON THEIR TEAM. Yes, you're stuck with him/her until the end of the game. You still agreed to play the game to the end and you agreed to abide by the rules of conduct set forth in the Terms of Service (Summoner's Code).

DOUBLE TAPPED E7/28/2019, 2:18:17 AM1 votes

It's end of season, everyone is getting desperate and buying boosts, and now it's a bunch of morons in Gold+ who have no idea how to play the game. Preseason will be more of the same until they inevitably demote again, and towards the end of season 10 you can bet your sweet ass the cycle will repeat itself.

So yeah, I don't think most bad players are "inting," I just think they got their boost and have no clue wtf they are doing.

Dorans Pants7/28/2019, 4:19:41 AM1 votes

I can think of a lot of reasons for why someone would be frustrated in this game. But I find it much harder to think of reasons for why someone needs to be babysitted and shielded from everything potentially negative other than principle by an outside force.

And this is strange because I would prefer that everyone is nice to each other as well and ofc if someone openly insulted me irl I would be pissed, but I wouldn´t call the cops because of it.