Discussion Thread About Riot's Envisioned Future (Please Join To Give Your Opinion)

NoGloryFound·9/17/2019, 3:16:26 PM·17 votes·9,011 views
Discussion Thread About Riot's Envisioned Future (Please Join To Give Your Opinion)

This post was originally on EUW Boards.

Everything in the text below is mainly based on my own opinion on what is going on with League of Legends in 2019. In some cases I will use sources which I will link at the end of each part. I want to invite you all to join in the discussion and give your own opinion on the directions Riot is taking in the last months.

Balancing of the game This has to be the part that is mainly complained about by the community. Every patch there are complaints about the "disgrace" of some nerfs and buffs. I used to be one of these people. But then I informed myself about how hard it is to balance all champions at the same time, while changing the meta every now and then. However, what does annoy me as a player is that nowadays champions are being buffed whenever a skins comes out for that champion. Two of the main examples of this are: Championship Kha'zix (at the time of Worlds 2018 (1)), and now Valiant Sword Riven (with additional prestige edition (2) (3)). For those of you who don't know yet, Riven is most likely to receive some buffs in the next patch. I mean, I get that Riot wants to sell their skins, but giving ridiculous buffs to champions that aren't in the worst spot in the game just makes me frustrated as this has nothing to do with "changing the meta". Once again, in most cases I do not mind the patches anymore, as I have accepted change in League's meta.

  1. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-819-notes
  2. https://www.riftherald.com/lol-skins/2019/9/10/20859484/immortal-journey-riven-morgana-nami-valiant-sword-majestic-empress-splendid-staff
  3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-vLa1Ctak

Eternals I would like to elaborate more on the attempt of Riot to shove things down our throat to get more money (which they do with the buff + skin). A few months back Riot announced the development of so-called "Eternals". Back then Eternals consisted of two "Common" parts and just one "Unique" Eternal. All parts are buyable with 875 RP per champion. (1) About one month ago Riot has given a few updates on the Eternals based on feedback we have given them. In this update they stated that they would delay the release of Eternals to develop more Unique Eternals per champion and lowering them in price (I think it's now at 526 RP). This, in my opinion, is a positive-ish development. Additionally they have stated that only the Common parts will also be obtainable in BE, during the BE emporiums (1). Now here comes what I personally think about the entire story we call "Eternals", starting with the Common Eternals. The Common Eternals are basically statistics you can find on any League-based statistics site (OP.GG, Mobalytics, etc.), for example kills and assists on a particular champion. Knowing this I question why this feature isn't available for BE at any time. I am saying "any time" because Riot only wants the Common Eternals to be available during the Emporiums, which is only 2, max. 3, times per season. The reasoning behind my opinion is that the majority of the community is not even going to be interested in the Common Eternals as they are everywhere to be obtained for free. So money-wise Riot is putting resources in things they aren't going to sell-out on and which can be put to better use. Now going over to the Unique Eternals I have some concerns. Some of the eternals involve counting of skillshots (which normally do not grant vision) hitting a target. This feature will count the hits LIVE, meaning it will give the player information on the whereabouts of enemies in a potentially unwarded bush. The counter-argument to this is "That feature is also possible using runes such as Aery, Aftershock, Comet and lethal tempo". That is true. However, these are features ANY player no matter what level, champion or skin can use at any time, whereas an Eternal has to be BOUGHT. I am no fan of the term "pay-2-win", but features like these should not exist in a supposedly "free game".

  1. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/08/dev-changes-to-eternals/

Game modes and Missions As I have mentioned before some of Riot's resources could potentially be put to better use (IMO!). Lately most of Riot's resources went into Teamfight Tactics (TFT), which is understandable. Personally I am not a big fan of TFT, but I enjoy playing it every once in a while. However, I was really disappointed the resources for TFT meant I am going to have to give up on some aspects of League of Legends I have very much enjoyed in the past and present. The biggest one is the discontinuation PvE game modes. According to Riot developing and running PvE modes cost too many resources. This honestly hurts my soul as an active, loyal and committed League player. I have seen the League community grow in toxicity over the last 8 years (part of that has been the removal of Tribunal). However, every time a PvE event dropped, people started working together again and in my experience the toxicity was reduced. Opinions on PvE may differ (1), but in my opinion it is a loss for the community and therefore the "well-being" of Riot's playerbase. Additionally to this "resources"-story other maps are also less likely to occur on the regular basis we have come to know (Rotating game mode): Bilgewater, Ascension, One-for-All, the PROJECT-based map, Invasion (to adress the lack of SG event we have at the moment), Nexus Blitz. NB there were some words in the past that Nexus Blitz would become the new permanent game mode. But where is it now? It seems this was too good to last: (3). Years back we had to watch the removal of Dominion and the Crystal Scar. Now Riot has announced that another map is looking for its retirement: the Twisted Treeline (2). I for myself have spent countless hours on this map (especially before the rework, as the 3v3 jungle was my favorite), and I find it sad to see this map go. Most people will say it is due to the lack of interest in the map, which is true. However, without shame, I will say I think it is also due to the lack of effort Riot has put into making this map interesting to players. I mean, when was the last MAJOR update for this map? Without further accusations, I will hereby already say my goodbyes to my beloved Twisted Treeline...

In another thread I have already posted about my opinion about the state of missions and events lately. That is why I am only going to link that thread on behalf of the missions: (4).

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/b3zs51/more_pve_like_the_odyssey/
  2. https://www.riftherald.com/lol-gameplay/2019/7/31/20748999/twisted-treeline-gone-retiring-season-9
  3. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/riot-games/editorial/upcoming-changes-rotating-game-modes
  4. https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/Ei0LmYop-very-disappointed-in-the-sg-event

Streamers and pro-scene I am not going to "waste" a lot of words into this part, as I do not know any famous streamers or pro-players personally. However, I would like to see these players put less emphasis on EVERYTHING Riot wants to put down our throats. I have seen some videos (not mentioning names) in which I have seen players complain about new buyable features in League, and basically the next day they are buying these things with sponsored money from Riot, encouraring their viewers to buy them too. Again, I do not know these players personally and I respect them for what they do, as I can't do it, but please be aware of what Riot tries to sell us through your advertisment.

15 Comments

Morbys9/17/2019, 9:35:45 PM3 votes

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This post was originally on EUW Boards.

Everything in the text below is mainly based on my own opinion on what is going on with League of Legends in 2019. In some cases I will use sources which I will link at the end of each part. I want to invite you all to join in the discussion and give your own opinion on the directions Riot is taking in the last months.

Balancing of the game This has to be the part that is mainly complained about by the community. Every patch there are complaints about the "disgrace" of some nerfs and buffs. I used to be one of these people. But then I informed myself about how hard it is to balance all champions at the same time, while changing the meta every now and then. However, what does annoy me as a player is that nowadays champions are being buffed whenever a skins comes out for that champion. Two of the main examples of this are: Championship Kha'zix (at the time of Worlds 2018 (1)), and now Valiant Sword Riven (with additional prestige edition (2) (3)). For those of you who don't know yet, Riven is most likely to receive some buffs in the next patch. I mean, I get that Riot wants to sell their skins, but giving ridiculous buffs to champions that aren't in the worst spot in the game just makes me frustrated as this has nothing to do with "changing the meta". Once again, in most cases I do not mind the patches anymore, as I have accepted change in League's meta.

  1. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-819-notes
  2. https://www.riftherald.com/lol-skins/2019/9/10/20859484/immortal-journey-riven-morgana-nami-valiant-sword-majestic-empress-splendid-staff
  3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-vLa1Ctak

Honestly this wouldn't be bad, to change the meta from time to time, but dmg seems to be the problem atm and its just getting worse and worse with every season.

JRobin319/17/2019, 10:42:30 PM3 votes

I think RIOT's envisioned future might not be one that I share.

If there is one thing that RIOT should do or not do to maintain some semblance of shared vision with me, then it would be:

To Stop Reworking Old Champion's Kits.

Just... stop. Tweak champions? Sure. Rework? I'm sick of it.

I spend significant time researching the champions and skins I buy and there's a limited budget for it. It's a significant investment for me to purchase a particular champion or skin. If RIOT wants to tweak, nerf, buff, whatever, but if RIOT wants a new champion in the game then RIOT can release a new champion for the game. They don't need to delete the champion that I invested in.

I posted in another thread about how RIOT needs to do something to tone down the AP Shyvana and someone posted back that RIOT was going to rework her. If I was upset about AP Shyvana, I was ten times as upset to hear someone say RIOT was planning a rework for her! Those are the times I question continued investment in the game. I think to myself: "Why should I invest anymore into this game?"

And I know a lot of people out there are like: the Urgot rework was awesome! IMFAO, the game was better with old Urgot in it than it is with new Urgot, not because the old Urgot's kit was better than the new Urgot's kit (we all know the new Urgot's kit is "better"), but because in RIOT's zeal to rework champions they actively f* up the identities of those champions.

And so, I question the vision RIOT has for this game and I wonder to myself, "How much of RIOT's vision for this game do I actually share?" That's the big question for me as LoL comes into its tenth year anniversary. We've had a decade to see what RIOT's vision for the game is. So... what is RIOT's vision for the game?

MrCoWorker9/17/2019, 8:34:47 PM3 votes

Its pains me knowing that the game that i love is not putting any effort into improving its quality of life and sense of adventure it once had with game modes and event that are especially like the bilgewater event.

RekSai CoffeeCo9/17/2019, 8:04:00 PM3 votes

Nice Feed FF15 (EUNE)

  • about 2 hours ago

The funny thing that this company doesn't care about this forum, i dont even know like why is this forum exist if they do nothing about it. and its even more funny where at the bottom of the page says: 'HELP US IMPROVE'.

This is one of riots fundamental flaws concerning the game (besides employees posting all over web, social media etc etc but not having revelent possible info/info on official media)

NoGloryFound (EUW)

  • about 6 hours ago

The only other modes will be TFT and ARAM now, and thats not very versatile, imo

This sums up how I feel to a T and is main reason I have logged on to play since beginning of bildgewater. Loss of RGM was too much.

Toon Draw9/17/2019, 8:49:16 PM2 votes

Nice post explaining the issues right now with League or at least season 9, since I believe balance changes have been the most toxic and discussed part in the game and is more clear with this balance changes with Riven with the suspicious Skin coming out at the same time that pisses off a lot of players. Although thats as issue that always I've seen in league (Coming for a Kindred player) the biggest mistake of Riot in this year is the waste of his resources in Eternals and TFT, ignoring TFT without any game mode events feel boring and pointless, I just played ARAM this days without any intention to be part of the events, and well I get rewards that meh, didn't care that much, I don't play because I want to kill 500 minions or kill 5 torrets, I want to missions of be the ascended and kill enemy champions, survive most difficult moments in Invasion, do an hexakill, and defeat Kayn Odyssey. Now thats how you play a Mission. item 3680 item 3681

Ahris9/17/2019, 5:30:08 PM2 votes

Bring back one champ carrying potential. We are way too reliant on team atm, and if your team d.c or plays horribly, you still lose if the enemy team are all decent(even when you are amazingly good).

Garen is adopted9/17/2019, 11:34:18 PM2 votes

Well that is why i like Necrit more than any other player, even if he honestly spends a lot of money in things that he complains about, he also reminder with every occasion the community to not spend money on them.

On another note im sure most streamers and especially pros are forced by some contracts (league partenership probably on streamers) to support anything Riot wants