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Getting bad players after a win streak

SlayingDeezeHoes·2/16/2020, 5:51:14 AM·43 votes·11,757 views

Why are bad players (trolls, afk's, feeders etc.) always given to me after a decent win streak? Any body else have this issue? Am i thinking too much? I tell myself "relax, it's just one bad game, one bad player, and maybe the next game will be better" but it's not, I ALWAYS get the shittiest players after a decent win streak. yeah I know everyone going to say "maybe it's not them? it's you?" come on, I want to win and climb as much as i can and i never blame others but when they run it down, int, and afk do i not have the right to blame others? Is this how the system works? Does Riot do purposely drag me down so that I will continue to grind and "play the game?" Not saying I'm always the best player on the team and it's always bad teammates etc. because sometimes i do perform poorly and get carried but come on, all i'm asking for is to get decent players and not trolls, afk, int'ing players BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK!!! after a decent win streak. This game is starting to frustrate me...maybe i might just quit and stop playing altogether...

55 Comments

KnightLakega2/16/2020, 6:08:29 AM38 votes

Yes, they do it on purpose to make the climb longer.

No its not a theory, it's been proven.

yes you have a right to complain.

SammyDayspring2/16/2020, 6:23:15 AM19 votes

It is a known tactic of Riot to make it harder to climb. It is supposed to be a team game, but that is a lie. If you cannot 1v9 with horrible feeders on your team, you cannot progress.

ElnyrJhodo2/16/2020, 7:41:39 AM19 votes

Their system attempt to force everyone to a 50% winrate within 1%.

Meaning if you are a good player, you are placed with shit players in order to force you to lose, to maintain that 50% win opportunity per game. They can't balance champions, or even create champions for specific roles, but somehow most people seem to think they can build a matchmaking system that works.

Its nonsense.

The only way riot could design a system that is accurate within 1%, is to force it to be accurate within one percent. 'accurate' of course means attempting to force everyone to a 50% winrate.

This is why after winstreaks you get fucked, this is why games feel so inconsistently matched, because they are incredibly inconsistent.

Then throw in trolls, smurfs, unranked, and of course you can't match games.

Even further than that, when you do manage to still carry games, they bring the higher players to you, not you to the higher players. Nothing makes sense.

G0blinSlay3r2/16/2020, 6:16:59 AM15 votes

i SAID THIS 5 YEARS AGO!

And i was told i was a liar!

RyzeRework2/16/2020, 11:19:57 AM4 votes

It's actually harder for smurfs to rank up now too. I've seen challenger smurfs destroy the game but sense their team is so bad they cant do it all

Mostly Bad2/16/2020, 10:46:42 AM4 votes

They keep saying that you lose because you’re playing against/with better players and you can’t handle it.

IMAGINE THAT

How come whenever I am supposed to not be able to play with/against better players, it’s my teammates who feed horrendously ?

Flygøn2/16/2020, 11:38:32 AM4 votes

Literally my games right now, after a win streak im now just getting absolutely useless junglers and top laners in my team each game.

Ginger9762/16/2020, 2:34:23 PM4 votes

Heres the only "defense" of the system. If you complain that this system is preventing you from climbing, you're dead wrong. After enough games, you are roughly where you are supposed to be IN RELATION TO THE REST OF THE PLAYER BASE. This is because everyone has to deal with the same system, which means its "fair" from the standpoint of determining how good you are compared to everyone else.

JustA kleo2/16/2020, 7:25:51 PM3 votes

enough dia ppl alrdy posted their smurf is stuck in silver/gold because they have 4 ppl int so hard, even if they go 30/0 they cant make up for their team going 0/3000

KVbqbFsC8e2/16/2020, 12:28:25 PM3 votes

I wish I had this "issue". Not sure why anyone would complain about this anyway. Getting bad teammates only after a winstreak? I wonder how you'd react to getting bad teammates regardless of winstreaks.

Peppurr2/16/2020, 6:17:21 PM2 votes

I literally climbed myself to plat promos and the SECOND NO JOKE THE SECOND i get into them i got 1. AFK, 2. A literal troll and the third game we just threw but STILL

Jenkins3122/16/2020, 11:28:08 PM2 votes

I completely agree with this. Well 'challenger' would lose its meaning if the system was actually balanced. Riot wants to keep the top rank only 1-2% of players and prevent it from being diluted and losing all meaning. If 30% of people were in challenger, it would have no meaning, no reason to climb. Its a political strategy to keep to keep people climbing. Riot doesn't care if you hit challenger, they just care if u play their game and put your money into it over others. Why do you think we dont see any productive changes?

Ariel the Cruel2/16/2020, 7:53:55 PM1 votes

Are you allies actually getting worse (overall), or are your opponents just getting better (overall)? Far as I'm aware, the system balances teams, not individuals. So for the sake of a balanced team, you could end up against someone grossly below your skill level. At the same time, your ally could end up against someone grossly above their skill level.

Also keep in mind MMR is not a rigid system. It doesn't guarantee a perfectly balanced match. It does it's best to make balanced match based on who queued around the same time as you. So if only masters happen to queue within 30 seconds of a bronze, chances are that bronze is going to end up in a masters game; even if waiting another 10 seconds would have resulted in a properly matched game (Obvious hyperbole). It has been confirmed on a few occasions that the longer you are in queue (double for unranked), the wider net match making is willing to cast. So, in theory, your most balanced matches are those that get found instantly. This is especially relevant at higher skill levels where there are progressively fewer players.

Sonic Adventure2/17/2020, 7:21:12 PM1 votes

You had a win streak because you had good players too.

Jenkins3122/17/2020, 12:00:06 AM1 votes

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I completely agree with this. Well 'challenger' would lose its meaning if the system was actually balanced. Riot wants to keep the top rank only 1-2% of players and prevent it from being diluted and losing all meaning. If 30% of people were in challenger, it would have no meaning, no reason to climb. Its a political strategy to keep to keep people climbing. Riot doesn't care if you hit challenger, they just care if u play their game and put your money into it over others. Why do you think we dont see any productive changes?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ldA7WVdB-does-ranked-actually-have-anything-to-do-with-your-rank-riot-wants-us-in-low-elo i posted this abuot the exact same topic

ÈvilMorty2/17/2020, 2:51:59 AM1 votes

after losing promos form gold 1 to plat 4 then being demoted all the way to the bottom of gold 2 when 80% of those losses were my team mates with their thumbs up their asses, yes riot does this so that you'll keep playing.

Shattered Mind2/17/2020, 3:08:10 AM1 votes

I went on a 13 win streak gained 1 prmo win lose what 6-7 with a win in between I go back down and at like 25 lp lost per loss. Riot is the real troll. They wonder why people buy accounts.

Malix Farwin2/17/2020, 7:20:59 AM1 votes

On a winning streak right now and can already tell its starting to happen. Every game gets harder and harder to carry until you reach uncarryable and the losing streak begins.

Braxxxy2/17/2020, 10:27:10 AM1 votes

just get a 5 win streak, stop playing. and join back the next day. if not you'll get you get a 5games loss streak summoner 4

Starcraft243ver2/17/2020, 12:10:06 PM1 votes

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Why are bad players (trolls, afk's, feeders etc.) always given to me after a decent win streak? Any body else have this issue? Am i thinking too much? I tell myself "relax, it's just one bad game, one bad player, and maybe the next game will be better" but it's not, I ALWAYS get the shittiest players after a decent win streak. yeah I know everyone going to say "maybe it's not them? it's you?" come on, I want to win and climb as much as i can and i never blame others but when they run it down, int, and afk do i not have the right to blame others? Is this how the system works? Does Riot do purposely drag me down so that I will continue to grind and "play the game?" Not saying I'm always the best player on the team and it's always bad teammates etc. because sometimes i do perform poorly and get carried but come on, all i'm asking for is to get decent players and not trolls, afk, int'ing players BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK!!! after a decent win streak. This game is starting to frustrate me...maybe i might just quit and stop playing altogether...

Because you are winstreaking until you get bad players.

imagine each game to know if someone is going to be good or bad you throw a dice.

1 is bad 6 is very good

you can have a few games in a row with noone being a 1 on your team. but at some point you'll mathematically get a few 1 in your team in a single game.

So your games without 1 are won and thus you winstreak, until you get a 1. You just do not notice it when it's distributed evenly (ex : 1 game with a 1, 1 without, 1 with, 1 without ...)

Legaía2/16/2020, 4:37:22 PM1 votes

it is riots way of fixing elos for a multitude of reasons.