Officially Boycotting Riot Games

OtterlyLost·9/5/2018, 12:47:33 PM·275 votes·24,334 views

Female here, hi. One of those people your disgusting employee called a "manbaby." I don't agree with the way this whole fiasco has been handled. I'm angry that not only did you patronize me with the PAX workshop but now you're allowing some sexist individual to remain at your company after he openly bad mouthed your community.

Here is me putting my foot down. Until there is a real official statement from Riot games that includes an apology for these gross missteps along with some kind of punishment for the individual who felt the need to go on social media and "stir the pot" with their unwelcomed and, again, absolutely patronizing views, I will not be playing League. I will not be buying skins. I will not be viewing your esports or purchasing your merch. I will actively encourage others to do the same.

Because I dont need help getting jobs and I dont need a "safe place" away from men. To be completely honest, anyone who says they need that kind of treatment on order to apply for a job or to break into an industry is not mentally stable or mature enough to have a job in the first place; I dont know what they planned to do their first day when they realized they'd have to work with men.

And I definitely dont need a white knight in shining armor to come in and defend my rights and to help victimize me when I have never been a victim of anything on my life. I definitely dont appreciate individual employees calling me names for not agree with the actions of a company I put money into.

So here is me calling a spade a spade: Riot games decided to marginalize the majority of their player base with a sexist, anti male event. And then when people were understandably upset, their employees went on an unprofessional, childish tirade on social media that called the community garbage and made sweeping generalizations about the individuals who were upset over it. And then had the gall to not only allow said employee to remain after he insulted customers but began censoring reddit, congratulated him in private, and has seemingly decided they dont need to make a comment at all, letting their silence now stretch for three days.

Here's some advice: bad things dont just go away because you ignore them and destroy the evidence.

My boycott starts officially now. I encourage others to do the same but I especially encourage minorities to. Please, speak up and let Riot know that you dont need this kind of patronizing behavior and that you're just as capable and able to defend your own stances with out them.

EDIT: Four days. No League. Please, I implore others to do the same if you can. I know the game is addicting but there have been some great substitute games listed in the comments. :) Many people have been saying they are moving to Dota 2. I know I've been playing Monster Hunter World and am up for doing some fun hunts with people or helping with story quests. <3

Someone else suggest Vainglory which is a mobile moba; might be worth checking out.

Theres also Battlerite; I personally wasnt a huge fan but it's cute and has cute champs.

Heroes of the Storm is also available and kind of cool; not a fan of many of blizzards characters but it's pretty interesting.

Overwatch and Fortnite are also available and I want to try the free trial of FF14; have not been into a MMO in a long time.

Are there any DnD players? Roll20 is pretty cool.

148 Comments

Calamitosus Cini9/5/2018, 1:00:38 PM72 votes

Watch the fire with us?

DrCyanide9/5/2018, 3:26:38 PM21 votes

Welcome to the sidelines. It's actually pretty refreshing after you start playing some other games and realize what gaming should be like.

Duroxxigar9/5/2018, 3:45:24 PM15 votes

I did the same thing. I switched over to DOTA for my MOBA experience. I've been enjoying it so far.

Spank the Fox9/5/2018, 2:09:14 PM12 votes

C u next week, person of significant importance.

El Doj9/5/2018, 3:21:25 PM10 votes

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Dancing Foxx9/5/2018, 4:30:19 PM5 votes

Here's a thought. Maybe you feel fine speaking up in a room of mostly men and find a way to be heard, but many women don't. This event was for them.

afmghost9/5/2018, 4:42:58 PM5 votes

What you do is refuse to give your champion commands until 2:30

MadViking9/5/2018, 6:09:29 PM5 votes

I'm still going to play the game, but I'm not tuning into any Riot events, any tournaments, or purchasing RP until we have an official Riot statement and apology.

Répôrt My ADC9/5/2018, 11:16:35 PM4 votes

I've put up with a lot of Riot's shit but.. Honestly.. the way this is handled is a literal PR disaster. Even if riot is so happy with themselves, Tencent is more than likely not happy with riot, especially now a boycott is in place. China does not play with losing customers and money, especially after a mini "market crash" in China, so Tencent probably doesn't want to lose more.

Regardless of that, I believe this was the camel that broke the straw's back.. or the back that strawed the camel? Uhm..---

The community has dealt with too much, and this is it. The angriest people have been. The last straw. The last cheese.. Whatever other thing you want to call this, people are fed up and this might be the wakeup call to get riot to shape up. I don't want to see this game sink but the way things are looking doesn't make the future look so good.. [sg-soraka]

Elipo9/5/2018, 6:06:07 PM4 votes

As a woman I agree and is refreshing to see other women with common sense.

I've tried Dota and same, there wasn't a hero that called my attention. I could never get used to Hots, besides being graphically unpleasent it was all just a complete mess.

I recomend the moba bainglory for android and ios, it has nice heroes, it's not a mess and I'd be playing it constantly if my wifi wasn't so unstable: their original map was 3v3 with 2 junglers (usuallly one of them would be a roamer suporty character with utility and the other an assassin) and a laner (usually a ranged heroe). This I take kinda inspired league's blitz. Then they added a 5v5 map (like league I guess). And... that's it. I really liked it and is f2p.

Also the mmorpg "tera" has really nice graphics and fast dynamic combats and is also f2p

D357R0Y3R9/5/2018, 7:21:56 PM3 votes

I dont need a "safe place" away from men.

according to some female rioters some women do

See? that's the problem with riot right now, they DO THINK that women need help to stay away from men, they think that by helping women they achieve equality, and worst of all they think that helping women by excluding men isn't sexist

synesterspawn9/5/2018, 6:18:01 PM3 votes

I would quit but I'm addicted. Honestly though as a man, I've found that all the male rioters I've dealt with are stubborn and entrenched in their ideas, the only female rioter that helped me actually helped and made me feel like she heard me. Not saying all female rioters are good or bad, just that I've only had bad experience with the males and vice versa.

Gothendel9/5/2018, 7:26:55 PM3 votes

I have been called many names because I am a female who play so league by riot employees. They abuse their power and one of them even perma banned and deleted my old account because I called their office reporting these people. Riot is only hiring children At their “company”

BlueSmurf20189/5/2018, 8:31:44 PM3 votes

thats a very comedic start ^.^ "Hi!, Female here." lol.

meowburger9/6/2018, 4:47:49 AM2 votes

I uninstalled the game two nights ago and will not be returning unless something major happens.

Even IF that happens, I will still never spend another cent on a Riot Games product.

Voltre9/5/2018, 8:52:43 PM2 votes

I haven't contributed any comments to this dumpster fire (until now) but why is everyone taking it so damned personally.

I feel like your assessment about riot trying to create a "safe space" is not entirely correct. But I feel like everyone is including that in their arguments just for clickbait. I'm certain that everybody hoping to attend the panel is smart enough to know that Riot Games as a workplace will contain both men, women, and nb.

This seems to me to be purely a logistics/attendance issue that they're trying to address. Just because the playerbase is 95% male or whatever, doesn't mean their hiring practices need to mirror that. Riot is just trying to alot some time to help a group that is normally underserved. That's it. Underserved. Riot has what I assume a limited allotted amount of time to help people review in person at PAX, and if there are like 6 dudes, 3 ladies and 1nb person in line, they'd end up forgoing a lot of non-male candidates if they opened it to everyone from the beginning? So they're trying to spread their resources at this event a little more "evenly" at this event to people that would normally get looked over (not because of qualifications, but because by the sheer number of applicants and people in line will skew).

Plus they said they're opening it to everyone afterwards anyway. I agree that it's not the most elegant solution to help this group, but just because they're trying to do something nice for one part of the community, doesn't mean they're purposefully trying to attack the entirety of the playerbase (which everyone is making it out to be).

And yes that one guy was way out of line with how he addressed the community. But the community is taking it a little too far in the other direction as well (in my humble opinion).

Anyway everyone is free to disagree here...but yeah that's how I feel. I don't need people to hold doors open for me, but I'm not gonna trash the person that just wanted to be nice.

Ark Sorcerer9/5/2018, 11:28:13 PM2 votes

It is unfortunate that not only what Riot Games has allowed to have happened, but this is where gaming is going: allowing sexist, anti-male rhetoric and we, the players, the consumers, are supposed to simply accept it. It is saddening that Riot is becoming part of the problem that no one on wants.

Arakadia9/5/2018, 10:45:15 PM2 votes

I don't think Riot was having their women's support event thing because women like you can't get jobs or need a safe place. I think it was that the tech industry generally is not at all welcoming or encouraging for women.

I assume you don't work in it (otherwise you would have mentioned it, but its also statistically unlikely), which makes sense.

So I disagree that supporting women who want to get in the tech industry is a bad idea (your fine, that doesn't mean everyone is). I understand that Riot wanted to welcome females and NB people who otherwise might be discouraged from the 97% of men who make up League's community. It can certainly make people nervous or discouraged if they know that the vast majority of people around are going to be the opposite gender. Its not a matter of being protected or white knighted against dangerous men.

I'm not saying what Riot did was smart or ethical (I don't think it was) but I disagree that their motives were bad. Riot having a female targeted event is fine! Segregating men entirely at the cost of this was not though. And I disagree with most of the extremism that has taken over the boards, such as responding to bigotry and toxicity with bigotry and toxicity.

Flying Hamst3r9/7/2018, 2:25:29 AM2 votes

I've spent hundreds of dollars on skins this year alone. No more, I'm done with this game now. Uninstalled.

gg riot

Blade of Justic9/6/2018, 7:20:49 PM2 votes

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Because I dont need help getting jobs and I dont need a &quot;safe place&quot; away from men. To be completely honest, anyone who says they need that kind of treatment on order to apply for a job or to break into an industry is not mentally stable or mature enough to have a job in the first place; I dont know what they planned to do their first day when they realized they&#039;d have to work with men.

And I definitely dont need a white knight in shining armor to come in and defend my rights and to help victimize me when I have never been a victim of anything on my life. I definitely dont appreciate individual employees calling me names for not agree with the actions of a company I put money into.

+1

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SupaDupaDog9/6/2018, 4:53:45 AM1 votes

As a minority I am absolutely ok with token gesture events if they make very turgid dude gamers who's only claims to sexism are in the most technical and petty sense, very angry.

Seriously its astounding how much a yawn the forums gave when it came to light female employees had been pushed out of Riot, out of their chosen and studied careers, yet when they make dudes sit out one corporate speak panel out of a future 100, the forums cannot stop screaming. This whole thing is getting mocked because the "man-children" seem utterly obsessed with their victim-hood over and refuse to see the big picture.

Honestly OP you shouldn't be sticking up for/throwing your hat in with people so loathsomely unconcerned with the well being of women.