CS'ing Bounty isn't healthy in Low Elo.

øHaruø·1/7/2019, 6:38:29 AM·12 votes·12,010 views

A historical definition for bounty provided by Google is a sum paid to encourage trade. Bounties are also known to be placed on notorious individuals' heads. This applies heavily in League, an enemy champion who is usually fed received a bounty, encouraging your team to trade resources to kill this person. Often ignoring others to get this bounty, bounties also pinpoint high target individuals who must be eliminated.

A 10/1 champion is someone who is a threat. A champion who has a lot of CS should not be considered a threat. Especially in Low Elo We've all had games where either our team or ourselves have been behind or feeding. Whether it's because of that Fiora who "dumpstered" our lane and we're sitting 0/4. And with the advice of most teams, it's usually, "Play safe under tower/avoid fighting"..or...farm. You think to yourself, this is a good idea, Fiora won't get any more fed off of you, you'll just farm. Some time goes by, you're not dying as much but, however, you notice something when you press tab. It's a bounty for 300-500 gold. (Somewhere in between there). The game has now identified you as a high priority target, remember that 4/0 Fiora we fed? She's even more eager to go for you, the 0/4 laner who does no damage, however, has additional gold, while Fiora has all the means to kill you with ease and gain even more gold for your death.

The problem Rewarding bounties for having a good amount of farm is not healthy, more so in low elo. Before this, players who fed outrageously were often left alone as one) they did no damage two) were no real threat and three) offered no real gold for the resources used. However, with the new bounty system, no matter how useless one is in the game, they can still be pursued by the enemy team and be rewarded with an easy kill and vast amounts of gold.

Where does this leave individuals who fed, do they farm? Do they not farm? Do they farm and somehow try not to die after being behind for so long? Who exactly is being rewarded for farming when behind? The enemy team. Bounties were a way for your team to "catch back up" to the enemy team or the enemy laner who was fed by offering a vast amount of gold. Now it seems bounties are another way for the enemy team to remain even further ahead. What brought on this post?

I was a Jax vs Fiora, and won't get into what my jungler and I did to her but let's say I was out of the game. Eventually, I was left alone and farmed top lane..finally completing my** first item** to Fiora's third. Eventually, I got a bounty. And within minutes, that bounty was gone, it didn't go to Fiora but to a Lux who came top with Fiora. Needless to say, despite having a bounty, I was no real threat to the enemy team, I was a mere child to them, however I was still an objective that put them even further ahead.

This reduces the chance of counterplay when the enemy team keeps climbing the ladder, I propose bounty for CS be completely removed.

35 Comments

Cait Main1/9/2019, 6:08:59 PM4 votes

To be real, bounties have hardly changed anything in low elo for csing. If your champion has a 30 cs lead average on the enemy team and your team is ahead, then there is someone on the enemy team you are stonger than who you can kill despite being 0/4.

Also Kda isn't a factor of how strong a champ is, items and levels are what makes a champ strong so having high cs means you have your core items in most cases. Not to mention that before the cs bounty thing farming still increased the value of killing you but only back up to 300g.

You could easily argue that getting a bounty for being 3/10 if you just got those last 3 kills recently as also denying comeback potential and you can get that bounty even if your team is behind. The csing bounty isn't really making any low elo games unwinnable. If you have a bounty for farming then someone on your team has to be doing well.

stanjer1231/16/2019, 8:12:15 PM2 votes

What would be the drawback from Riot just placing bounties for a straight gold advantage? The idea is to "shut down" someone who is carrying the team, and they do this by having a gold advantage. Why wouldn't the bounty be reflective of how much more gold one has than the relative enemy team?

Moonscourge1/18/2019, 8:33:03 PM2 votes

Since most people aren't farming well they will never get a bounty without also having a ton of kills and probably being a smurf anyway. Why exactly is that bad?

"A 10/1 champion is someone who is a threat. A champion who has a lot of CS should not be considered a threat. Especially in Low Elo"

That is absolutely awful logic. 10 minions = 300g, aka 1 kill. A 0 0 0 player with 300 CS is definitely more threatening than a 10 kill player with 100 cs.

nfzeta1/9/2019, 4:20:42 PM1 votes

I do feel like the cs bounties should have a further influence based on the average gold earnings of both teams compared. As is, if you're the only one farming well on your team but you're not fed then you can easily give a 450g bounty to the enemy who is 6/1 roaming from another lane.

Terricus1/10/2019, 2:51:06 AM1 votes

This is a funny discussion. I like it. I remember wondering, when first reading the pre-season changes, why Riot would want to introduce a new kind of bounty that isn't fairly combined with total KDA or total gold since that would create strangely punishing situations like this. — Low ELO does not care about CS. :D

The Bad Touch1/10/2019, 12:58:56 PM1 votes

Good thing I can't CS for shit.

I just go ADC... end games like 14/4/14 and never donate any extra gold from farming. :)

Bunnylift1/13/2019, 1:48:59 PM1 votes

I actually agree on a more basic level. If you're playing better, overall, in your macro and trade, and also in lower elo your ability to farm and the amount of hours you have put in it to be able to farm effectively, you will get more farm. This system punishes being better, overall, than the enemy. Something can be said for shutdowns for fed people because it slows down snowball, but I have never disagreed more with anything in this game than shutdowns on CS leads.

Sirsir1/13/2019, 1:59:36 PM1 votes

One thing I like is that it discourages 'The Nasus Playstyle' on most champs other than Nasus. "bad team, couldn't carry even with this farm smh" -idjit that never left top lane

But like most things Riot rolls out, its overtuned. If you can get even half the gold from a CS shutdown that the player got from farming, its too much.

Beerstein1/15/2019, 11:06:34 PM1 votes

Bounties are quite relative, if they farmed a lot of gold, then they are more of a threat/caught up. The problem, if anything, would be that some players learned to CS well but not dual well, those players will fall further than before and drag their teams down harder than before. But then that's the meta right? If they can CS but not trade/fight, shouldn't they be lower?

Hypèr1/16/2019, 4:20:48 AM1 votes

As a low elo player, i think CS bounties are the worst. I was 0/0/3 on Gragas and got picked off giving over an 800 gold bounty!!! Thats not balanced and it made a game i was already behind in impossible to come back from.

GodlyBane1/18/2019, 12:44:05 AM1 votes

isnt healthy*

Vaylin1/18/2019, 3:47:29 AM1 votes

I hate the bounty system. There's nothing more tilting than csing well in lane vs an opponent who's way behind in cs, only to get tower dove by four enemy players in bot and giving the enemy way more gold than they deserved.

They should at the least remove bounties you gain from csing and have it only for kills, I don't know but it feels like you're being punished for playing the game and last-hitting properly.

SanKakU1/28/2019, 11:41:03 AM1 votes

If she has a giant's belt worth of gold earned from killing minions in advantage over her opponents, then she's been ignored for too long already. I think it makes sense to incentivize killing them. In the end, they have to be making progress on pushing waves or they wouldn't be getting those bounty adjustments.

For junglers perhaps, it makes a bit less sense as they are just slaying neutrals perhaps.

xDogMeatx2/1/2019, 11:44:07 PM1 votes

this game isnt league anymore soon its gonna be sarcastia ball. where inting is rewarded and playing safe is reportable.

ModAttysu The Poro1/7/2019, 8:35:16 PM1 votes

Your post has been approved! ^^

Pianoasis2/4/2019, 7:26:58 AM1 votes

On the contrary, players who are significantly better at farming have probably had more practice than their foes, hence why riot added cs bounties to combat smurfing in low elos. The aspect is doing more good than harm, here's why:

A lot of supports in low elo tend to disregard jungler proximity and mid lane roams while at the same time are either wildly aggressive or unreasonably timid. Either way their gameplay has a pivotal effect on how the adc farms. Aggressive supports either die to leave their adc defenseless or take out an enemy on the way while timid supports can either support the adcs farming habits (heals, shields) or be completely regardless and offer no help. When there is the middle ground, the adc can see an entire lane going the way of whoever has picked up the most farm. Given this farm-to-6 jungle meta that ensues, we see a lot of bot lanes having no tough decision of whether to shove lane in and get turret plate gold versus slowly farming and not risking jungler snowballing effects.

The added risk of playing a safe, shove-in lane for the extra turret gold is now counterbalanced by the pressure of a level 6 jungle gank on a cs-fed carry. Without this aspect of the game we could see a lot of shove-in bot lane comps on red side gaining free vision control and dragon control just by clearing a wave, poking the turret, then retreating for safety. Basically, what this change does is create more tension around the dragon pit and encourages these level 6 jungle scuffles rather than something like a nocturne camping topside while caitlyn and leona wreck bottom side turret for free gp. Hope this makes sense.

WeeWeeBojangles1/8/2019, 5:58:00 AM1 votes

I feel like bounties on people with CS are terrible. Why am i being punished for farming well? I've noticed plenty of times at around 20-25 minutes I will have a 20 - 30 CS lead and about a 450 gold bounty despite having a really low KD ratio. All the bounty means is that a gank is imminent. Like I get where riot is coming from, they want people to be able to catch up, but i still feel like it just isnt right

Axzarious1/9/2019, 7:37:00 AM1 votes

It's not that CS bounties aren't terrible, but that you can get one tacked on to yourself just because you're the only person on your team not feeding your ass off and being more or less 'even' or even behind in your lane opponent's gold and MUCH farther behind the gold collective the other team has under their collective belt.