Feedback/Analysis : ADC itemization and extremely unsatisfactory state of Essence Reaver

ZJD123·9/11/2018, 11:33:13 PM·16 votes·9,443 views

In my opinion, ADC itemization is extremely bland and polarized right now.

When Riot reduced the cost of stormrazer to 2800, they essentially pigeonholed most ADCs into going stormrazer first item and ADCs who could synergize with this became extremely dominant and annoying to deal with while ADCs who cannot go stormrazer first are struggling. Then in a recent patch Riot nerfed stormrazer from 160% crit to 200% crit (when acquiring 30% crit chance) down to 140% crit to 200% crit (with the same 30% crit chance). The effect of this change, in my opinion, was also another severe pigeonhole.

Now after that patch, ADCs are not only forced to go stormrazer first but they are also forced to follow it up with a completed zeal item. This is extremely boring. Every game its the same dominant ADCs and every game they go stormrazer into a zeal item.

Suggestions: Essence reaver should be no surprise to anyone that it is extremely under used and clunky. My suggestion would be to find a middle ground between the old ER and the current ER. Example: X Gold cost X AD 30% crit 250 mana 20% cdr. -maybe some unique passive

I think the most important thing is for ER to receive 30% crit chance. This is extremely important and I beg that Riot considers doing this because the 30% crit will give champions a second option to follow up stormrazer with instead of just always zeal item and right click.This way the item still retains the mana and cdr for spell casting but also provides consistent crit instead of a volatile ultimate related active which is extremely inconsistent in both gameplay and champion synergy.

Suggestion #2: LDR is absurdly expensive and I think Riot should consider rolling back slightly to a 2015 model where there was less lethality in the game (then called flat armor pen and the only item that gave it was ghostblade) but players had LDR to pick up instead ( a much healthier item with a much smoother powercurve). LDR used to be 2300 gold now its 2800. I remember near the end of 2015 Riot said they were reworking/nerfing LW because it was "always built on every ADC champion every game" wow sounds alot like whats happening right now but with different items. Id rather have LDR built every single game over frontloaded stormrazer into shiv every game.

Bottom line is buffing LDR to 2300 gold but in return nerfing stormrazer and lethality will roll league of legends back to being closer to 2015 style of less upfront burst and more consistent dmg with LDR. (I should also maybe add that my suggestion to nerfing lethality after buffing LDR would be to simply make it so only 2 lethality items exist instead of 3, options could be remove dusk or remove lethality from dusk and lower cost etc).

23 Comments

Alzon9/11/2018, 11:47:16 PM4 votes

How to nerf lethality: buy a single item 1029. As any champion in any role. 300 gold is a kill. You set yourself back a kill’s worth of gold to deny the opponent a kill on you, or at least several minions’ worth of gold that they cannot deny you.

Stormrazor and Essence Reaver are a bit trickier, though. I believe Essence Reaver should have a passive that grants a buff on takedown, matching its name. Stormrazor is just a mess. I have no good ideas for it.

OtterlyLost9/12/2018, 1:45:16 AM2 votes

I think they should revert ER completely, honestly. I dont know why they changed it to its current iteration.

As for stormrazor, I'm finding fine success without it on Tristana, one of the champions everyone feels is required to build it. It's slightly slower but makes for an overall smoother build path. I like to get my pick, BF, and Zeal and then transition into IE first. The raw AD in lane is super nice since the only buff they gave her was to the AD ratio on her bomb. It's not super impactful but it does mean she scales just a hair better with raw AD now. And you can still take advantage of IEs passive because zeal itself has 15% crit. Plus, it gives me something to help deal with tanks since they're coming back into the meta again finally.

I personally think that stormrazor is over hyped as a "good" item. Its a cheap item, not a good one, and its ill designed for ADCs. :/ if the garuanteed crit charged up via AAs instead of just not moving, it would be far better suited for an ADC and it would have solved the problem of assassins abusing it far cleaner than their eventual decision with it. They could even lower the damage of the crit or give it a ramp up affect where it starts off as a weaker crit but with each consecutive crit after, it got stronger. This would reward DPS and make it less of a useless item late game.

Linna Excel9/12/2018, 12:27:14 AM1 votes

I think it needs to be a mix of its original version and the last version.

+60 AD +20% crit 10% CDR 10% life steal Passive: critical hits restore 3% of your missing mana.

CauseSCIENCE9/11/2018, 11:41:53 PM1 votes

I would suggest keeping ER's current passive cause it synergizes really well with champs like twitch and vayne.

Yordle Xayah9/12/2018, 5:25:13 AM1 votes

I hate Stormrazor because it feeds into the One-Item Arms Race Riot has going, where all classes blend together, there's no specialties anymore, everyone is good at everything and the games feel like a coin toss.

wildfox999/12/2018, 12:01:45 PM1 votes

it's not an ADC only problem,look at the AP builds they are also always the same for each type because riot forced them into one specific build/build path (your only "choice" is if build item 3102 or item 3157)

i think it's because if there is less build diversity champions are easier to balance (less variables to consider) and since the balance team is barely able to keep this game half balanced in this way i think they are actually doing it on purpose


returning to the ADC itemization i think stormrazor should give crit instead of AS (so we even nerf Jhin MS) edit : or making it an AS item with no AD (builds from zeal),ofc with its passive adjusted

in this way this item can feel more slot efficient and give you your powerspike early (as it was supposed to do)

edit : this change would make it more mandatory but you'd need to build 1 less item for reaching the 100% crit (1 more free slot)

BestPudgeNA9/12/2018, 4:58:59 PM1 votes

How about we nerf broken AF Stormrazor instead.

ADCs don't need any buffs right now