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How to get out/carry out of bronze elo (NO TROLLS PLEASE)

snowcrest··2 votes·2,632 views

CURRENTLY BRONZE IV 0 POINTS

OK guys, I'm willing to give it my all before season 6 starts, what must I do to get out of Bronze? Feel free to tell me what role/champion/ or anything about low elo I should know in order to get out. Thanks and please no troll answers, I'm sick of this elo. Kappa.

EDIT: Sorry if this is in the wrong board, didn't know where else to put this in :)

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Goumindong3 votes

There is no best role or champion which can carry you out of Bronze. Carrying yourself out of bronze will require reflection on your strengths and weaknesses and then figuring out which champions and roles work for you. About a year ago i replied to a similar post asking the same thing and i will tell you what I told him: [small edits for your specific circumstances]

A lot of other people will tell to master champions but that advise is not that good. Its equivalent to "be good at a champion". And well yes, if you're good at a champion you will win more games than if you're not good the platitude neither tells explains why its happening or tells you how to get there.

Anyway a bit about me so you know where I am coming from. In Season 2, I ended up at 1450 ELO (about silver 1 today), 50 MMR short of rewards (So no Vicotrious Janna for me :( ). In Season 3 i meandered around roughly doing the same thing until I came upon some really good advise. In 2 months i went from silver 1 to plat 3 and have hovered around there ever sense.

Specifically this advise was

1) Stop playing when you lose

It instills bad habits in your play. Repetition is memory and you play like you practice. If you repeat bad habits in your games you are practicing bad habits. Tiger woods had the same comment on bad golfers. He said (unspecifically) "you can tell a bad golfer by the way they repeat their swings after they shank one, good golfers forget bad swings"

We want to forget our bad habits. This is regardless of how well you played. Because of the second aspect of losing games.

Losing games makes you negative. Negativity begets negativity. You just lost a game, maybe it was your fault maybe it wasn't. Now you're unhappy and you take that out on others. Maybe intentionally, maybe not. That makes them unhappy. They play bad. You lose more. We call this "going on tilt". And its a real thing. The key to avoid playing on tilt is not to be able to realize you're on tilt and stop playing. Its to stop playing before you go on tilt.

You cannot downplay the importance of this. If you're unhappy because of the last game you will be less likely to trust your teammates. If you can't trust your team mates you will, by your inaction, turn their good plays into bad play. If you turn their good plays into bad you will not think this was your fault and you will get more negative and even less trusting. Which unsurprisingly leads to even worse play.

If you can definitely not do this, or you're a professional and you have to play that next game, then go right ahead and queue up. But for most people they cannot help themselves, they do not realize they're doing it, and the only obligation they have to play another game is themselves.

2) Analyze Every Game

One day later sit down and look at all the games you played. Watch replays if you can get them(Riot please, for god sakes finish this). Turn enemy vision off. Ignore your teammates play and focus only on yours.

The goal of this session is to find 10 mistakes that you made in each game. "Missing a CS" does.not.count. These mistakes can be mechanical (missed my combo, failed my flash, right clicked instead of attack moving), strategic (built the wrong item, was in the wrong position on the map, got picked, didn't ward, didn't buy pots, leveled the wrong ability), or tactical (went into a fight i should have been running out of, didn't flash an ability i should have flashed, put a skill shot in the wrong direction, was in the wrong position in a team fight). But you should find at least 10. That doesn't mean you should stop at 10. Find as many as you possibly can. The next time you play focus on not making those mistakes.

If you can't find 10 you're wrong. Look harder. If you still can't find 10 then you can't get any better. So go find someone who is better than you and ask them to find 10. They will find 10 easily. If they can't find 10 then you've peaked. You haven't peaked. God find 10 more mistakes.

The purpose of this is to do two things a) get you to focus on your game and your game only. Especially while you're playing. And b) to make sure you don't make those mistakes anymore.

3) dedicate time to practicing champions and farming

I am apparently out of space and will continue this by replying to myself

Goumindong2 votes

3) dedicate time to practicing champions and farming

This is the last thing you need to do in order to get better. Before you start playing with a champion you want to understand their animation and animation cycles in an intuitive and muscle memory type way. This doesn't mean you have to have mastered the champion but it means that you should not be making mechanical mistakes due to not understanding how the champion moves.

Functionally when practicing we want to shoot for 80 CS in 10 minutes with zero items or ability use(and not pushing the wave) If you can do that farming normally then you can do that in games.

This isn't an in game metric. This is a practice metric. In game the sign of a good CS'er is not high CS, its getting every CS they attempt to get. Before playing we want to be at that point where we will not miss CS we attempt with high liklehood. We want to ensure that we know when to press buttons in order to make our combos (I.e. just how much wait do you need a ryze in order to not interrupt his cast and auto attack animations before they go off)

Practicing in custom games is how we do that.

You've played about 200 games of ranked this season (or over a full year). That isn't too many games. But I am willing to bet that you didn't play them with a critical eye. And didn't focus on what your play should be in order to win. With practice, patience, and analysis you will improve

edit: the point of this is not to give you more or less obvious advise. Most of the advise in this thread can't really be taught or understood from just listening to them. "CS better and be better at champions" Well thanks, that really helps me. I want to know how to CS better and be better at champions. That second part is key. And while there are likely a number of things that you do or don't do that you don't understand are mistakes

Mistakes: Full list of things you almost assuredly don't do properly Not warding enough (not buying pinks) Not being at team fights Not buying HP pots Not buying Mana pots Not combat warding Not warding chokepoints Not paying attention to the minimap Not understanding your combo damage Not understanding the enemies combo damage Doing nothing when you should be doing something Chasing when there are objectives on the table Chasing when enemies are missing Chasing in general, singed especially Not following teammates Not peeling for strong teammates Fighting when you're weaker Fighting in disadvantageous terrain Not understanding what is and isn't advantageous terrain Not upgrading your trinket Not purchasing the right trinket for your position and the list goes on.

But me just saying "do all these things" doesn't help you. Because you don't see yourself making those mistakes and don't take them to heart. Watch your games and understand and you will get better.

Goumindong1 votes

Additionally i would say "don't be afraid of dodging". Dodging will lower your LP but not effect your MMR. If you're good at predicting wins/losses from champion select then you will win more games (and so increase your MMR and so increase your ranking) by leaving games you are likely to lose before that can happen.

Don't dodge initially. You want to get a good sense of team composition strengths first (this will also help you pick more appropriate champions). Once you think that you're ready start recording[write it down!] the outcomes of games you think you should dodge. If you lose say >60% of those games [say in 25 to 50 played games that you thought you should have dodged] then start dodging games you think you should dodge.

snowcrest1 votes

Bro this is sick, ty so much

Joe Dredd2 votes

get good

SquishyArchon2 votes

Just get better. There's no secret get out of bronze strategy. You can get out of bronze with whatever champ and whatever role you want to play as long as you're good with it. It's literally that simple. If you're stuck in bronze that's just honestly where you belong then. If you think this is a troll response then that's your shortcomming of being unable to accept your current level of play.

buster kiton1 votes

Any role and champion can carry, pick something you enjoy. Try to play single champion constantly and blame every loss on yourself. Alway look for what you could have done better and don't blame your teammates even if they troll/feed/afk, that will not help you get any better.

Prospector Pete1 votes

Find a champion you really like and play them a lot. For me it's Ekko.

hh the thinker1 votes

focus on csing if you are mid, adc or top. learn to kite, position well, poke/trade damage, build right, runes and masteries, skill order, and you should climb.

basically, just overall improvement. if you notice you died because you overextended or you didn't ward vs a gank or something, than that's on you, not your team. at bronze 4, you getting 1 or 2 deaths per game is ok, you don't need any more past that.

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