Junglers Answer me this

Lalita Sahana ·2/14/2016, 4:32:38 PM·3 votes·645 views

Why is it that junglers think they shouldn't gank a losing lane? Shouldn't you gank that lane more? Shouldn't you make sure your team is winning by helping the struggling lanes. This doesn't make sense to me. Someone let me know what's the logic.

8 Comments

Kyrrion2/14/2016, 5:12:23 PM4 votes

It depends.

  1. Is the lane absolutely lost, or did my laner make one mistake and gave one kill - being down one kill aside are they still able to reasonably compete with their opponent?

  2. Is said laner playing a champ that's a nightmare late game, that a risky gank would easily pay off and set off a snowball if successful?

  3. Is their opponent so ahead they're likely to 1v2 us? Or would a gank still guarantee that the opponent gets a kill off of one of us - would it still be worth it?

  4. Is my time better spent elsewhere - if the gank does go successfully, is it going to change the outcome of the lane? Or will their opponent just come back and resume killing them and free farming?

  5. Who else on my team can I gank for with a better chance for success who can deal with the snowballing enemy laner when teamfights start happening? Does my team have an answer for that enemy top lane Riven who's crushing?

BestAsianKidNA2/14/2016, 4:55:12 PM2 votes

wipe away what anyone tells you. if someone goes 0-3 in a lane that either means they got counter picked hard or have laning problems. you as a jungler shouldnt look at which lanes are winning/losing to gank. you should look at where you can make the biggest impact and gold lead for your team

Allahu Barackbar2/14/2016, 4:56:56 PM2 votes

Well, I'm not a jungler myself, but I'm subscribed to several higher-elo junglers who have spoken in regards to this topic.

The reason many junglers do not gank losing lanes is this; if a lane is losing due to a lack of jungler influence (especially from both sides, not just their side) then that means the player(s) your teammates are playing against are simply better. Meaning that even if you were to get them back on their feet, odds are they'll just throw any lead you give them. Not always the case, but it tends to work out that way.

If a jungler ganks a lane that is already winning or going even, then they have the option to extend that lead even further, opening up more chances at securing objectives and creating pressure on the map. If done successfully, the lanes that succeeded can help carry the losing lane(s) to some form of relevance through global gold or buffs via Dragon.

Now, a jungler MIGHT gank a losing lane if the following applies;

  1. The lane was influenced by the enemy jungler, so it may have just been an accident that can be recovered.
  2. The lane has a powerful late-game/hyper-carry champion who, once recovered and played correctly, can carry the team later into the game.
  3. Doing so opens up the opportunity to take certain objectives (towers, dragon, rift herald, etc.)
Quepha2/14/2016, 4:57:35 PM1 votes

If the enemy is fed you may end up just losing that fight and feeding them more kills. If the losing ally just sits under turret and cs's safely then eventually the enemy's advantage will start to level off

Erockandroll2/14/2016, 5:05:41 PM1 votes

I usually gank a lane that has the highest chance of success. If your two levels down, half health, and out of mana. Their isn't a good chance of a successful gank. (Unless they are trapped under our tower.)

If your behind, but still have a your HP, mana, Ult and summoners available. Then I have something to work with.

Lalita Sahana 2/16/2016, 3:50:31 PM1 votes

We had an anivia bot that is very good, We got camped by there jungler, got ganked by top, and mid and he still wouldn't come down. He wouldnt come in when they were down to 200hp either because one of us died getting them low. Anivia is VERY powerful late game. So is Sona the way we play. So everything you all said would've been true and i wouldn't have reported him, but we had everything set up multiple times perfectly when he was down near bot taking scuttle crab instead of getting a double and he even pinged he was going in! T^T