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So Locket is going to end up like Sona

Luner Hunter·10/12/2016, 10:52:29 PM·3 votes·1,854 views

So rito posted this:

> On the other hand, Aegis of the Legion is one of the few items that allows you to make an ally harder to kill, a player fantasy we want to make sure to serve. While Aegis exists, most forms of protection will be overshadowed by the existence of its aura. Even if we made support items stronger to compensate, junglers would become the new Aegis purchasers (as has happened in past metas). So for the good of itemization as a whole, we’re killing its aura stats. > > We already have a few of those items. Mikael’s Crucible protects an ally from CC and Ardent Censer helps you keep an ally healed up. But we think there’s a lot we can do to sharpen those items’ identities, while creating new items to appeal to protective supports, whether they’re tanks, disruptors, or healers.

So their justification of removed Locket's aura is because you've bought an item that will help ALL 5 OF YOUR TEAM MATES with added MR and they are saying that Mikael's and Ardent will fill in for it. However neither Mikael's nor Ardent give MR, reduce the enemies magic dmg, or reduce ANY targets dmg taken. "increasing your shield/heal power" =/= a flat passive dmg reduction and as the above states they don't like ANY ITEM that can do that for anyone else on your team.

If this is the case then items like need to lose their auras as well since "invisible aura power too op" However rito doesn't mind OFFENSIVE auras they just don't want DEFENSIVE aura which really pisses me off as a support main.

It's not just my opinion, but, Riot has had it out for the support class since season 4 with their "support update" ... so when are they going to man up and just flat out remove the support class so that we can find something else to do with these constantly nerfed ( directly or indirectly ) champions other than place wards, CC bot, and be squishy.

15 Comments

Abyssphere10/12/2016, 11:02:06 PM5 votes

They literally said that they're going to make new items to fill the gap Aegis' aura is leaving, and Locket (and its active) will still exist. They brought up Mikael's and Censer to say that there ARE other defensive support items, not to say that they alone are good enough to make up for the removal of Locket.

Get a grip. They're making multiple new items for supports and Aegis/Locket/Banner will get something new to replace the lost aura. This is not going to be a nerf to support as a role and support has been buffed a bunch of times lately anyway, so the "why does Riot keep nerfing us poor supports?!" dramatics don't fly. I main support, and life is the best its ever been for the role right now.

Sona Ping10/12/2016, 11:30:35 PM5 votes

...Locket is one of the most over-powered items in the game. There is a reason it is basically mandatory in high level play and good reasons why they are going to look into changing Aegis/Locket. It's not about it having an aura effect for a passive, that is incidental. It's about how much Locket is a dominant choice that overrides any other options one could choose as a support and even as a jungler.

Meep Man10/13/2016, 1:00:09 PM2 votes

I like how you just ignore the statement where they said they would be adding in more Support items to balance out the removal of it's MR aura.

Orinne10/12/2016, 11:45:05 PM1 votes

Thing with persistent auras in LoL is that they're incredibly gold efficient and since supports are hurting for gold throughout much of a match, you have to make every bit of gold count.

I remember when Aegis of the Legion was the item's final build and it gave 25 Armor, 25 MR, and 8 AD as an aura. It was apparently 12 AD, 35 Armor, 40 MR on release. Funny thing was that for the 25 armor/MR version, it really wasn't bought all that much. Aura items in general were so vastly underrated despite having options like Stark's Fervor (Enemy armor reduction/ally AS bonus), Soul Shroud(CDR and mana reg) and Will of the Ancients(AP and Spell vamp; Vlad was the only champion that ever consistently bought it). Hell, Runic Bulwark was released weaker than the two earliest iterations of Aegis of the Legion and that was considered a gamebreaking item because the team that could get it on their jungler first pretty much won the game. It was basically 8000+ gold worth of stats crammed into an item that cost 3k.

The funny thing is, Aegis of the Legion now grants a measly 10 MR aura and Locket grants 15, yet despite being massively nerfed and supports now having more gold to work with, they're still considered the most important support items to grab. Yeah, Locket's also got the shield active going for it that previous iterations of Aegis didn't have, but the point is, the aura's pretty much non-existent, yet you still purchase it because it gives +50 MR total across 5 teammates, and 75 if you upgrade to Locket.

If even that's the strongest support option right, it probably really is time to remove passive ally-based auras all together.

Now, with that said, I'd argue that offensive auras are fine in that you can more readily tell where the effect is coming from and what kind of impact it will have on you. You don't really think 'gee, their support has an aegis, guess I need to deal 10% more magic damage" because it doesn't really affect you directly but you're more alert when abyssal scepter reduces your MR because every magic-damage dealing enemy is going to be hurting you for more.

Also,

item 3050 gives a massive long-duration buff with an obvious visual effect on two champions, not an entire team. item 3068 is a DoT with obvious output that directly affects you ("Oh shit, I'm taking 40 damage a second. I must be on top of an enemy with sunfire").

Lordk0z10/13/2016, 1:03:54 PM1 votes

Not to nitpick, but item 3110 is hardly an offensive aura.

But yes, Rito is biased towards offense and against defense.

R1810/13/2016, 1:18:40 PM1 votes

No, It's just that aegis has too much power at the moment.