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An idea on remaking Lissandra's passive

Lucian Waifu·6/6/2016, 10:00:05 PM·2 votes·423 views

I was reading Lissandra lore one dark and dreary night after a string of ranked losses and thought,"Since she wants the whole world to turn to ice why couldn't something like this be her passive?"

Iceborn: Lissandra spells leaves Black Ice in the spell's path for 3 seconds and causes enemy champions hit and neutral monsters to also leave a trail of Black Ice for 3 seconds. Black Ice allows Lissandra to activate her Glacial Path to blink anywhere the Black Ice is. This blink shares it's cooldown with Glacial Path's current cooldown and the blink cannot be activated if Glacial Path is already on cooldown. Additionally all champions, friend or foe, other than Lissandra traveling over Black Ice will be slowed by 5%/10%/15% (levels 1/7/13) for 1.5 seconds. This would also exclude the enemy with the Black Ice debuff because the trail is being formed behind that champion. Iceborn has a cooldown of 10 seconds, lowered by one second each time Lissandra applies crowd control, excluding crowd control spell effects from items or from Iceborn.

Of course the numbers are just there as place holders and can be changed but I wanted some numbers in there to help form the idea.

4 Comments

48983507DEL16/6/2016, 10:44:33 PM1 votes

Honestly I feel like this would defeat a lot of Glacial Path's purpose, while also adding too much CC into her kit. It also seems way to similar to Nocturne's Q.

I agree she needs a new passive, and this is thematically interesting, but it just overcompensates her current strengths with things she doesn't need.

Quepha6/6/2016, 11:31:37 PM1 votes

She doesn't need a new passive. Her current one creates interesting play around her mana management and allows her to flex pick between mid and top lane by more heavily rewarding a more conservative cast pattern.

Merbstrom6/6/2016, 11:32:01 PM1 votes

Giving her ms from a nocturne q interaction might be a bit frustrating since she has so much lock down in her kit. I'd much rather something like if her current passive changed to either apply a weak decaying slow after any of her abilities hit (after root on w, or to all targets on q when applied) or give her a tiny single-target luden's proc on aa or abilities. I'd be very wary of giving her any more movement options since her zoning playstyle can be so oppressive to melee champs. Not to mention, thematically it makes sense that her only movement spell is linear relating to glacial advances.

Lucian Waifu6/7/2016, 12:53:29 AM

I did get the idea from nocturne because giving her just a slow, especially since that slow applied to her allies, wouldn't be enough to keep from being too weak but now I'm seeing how that can be too strong, but I think the rest is just fine.

Her current passive is very lackluster. It means she has to have a higher mana cost on her skills, mainly her q, to offset her occasional free spell from the passive, but then that makes it where it is only useful until you get a RoA then you will almost never worry about your passive again. I have over 400 games on her and I can tell you after I get even a catalyst I almost never have to keep a close eye on my mana after that. It's a passive that only works early game and isn't interesting or really makes sense with her lore or as a CC Mage. It almost feels like Riot gave her that because they didn't have a better idea for what her passive could be.

Edit: my thoughts were all running together in the first paragraph. What I meant to say was that I did get the idea from nocturne but that was the best way I could think of to spread ice over a large area like Lissandra is turning the world to ice and it would make sense that she is turning the world icy through fighting her enemies. The glacial path part was put there because I was trying to give her some added help because her passive would slow both enemies AND allies and because of that I thought she needed some help. Now that you guys have pointe it out I do agree that nothing should be done to glacial path, but I don't see a problem with the rest of her passive.