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Morgana's kit being hardly touched during her VGU is NOT okay.

Kaisa Aran·8/6/2018, 6:17:41 PM·11 votes·3,517 views
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Why do I say this? Put simply, it's because Morg's current kit is outated & does not live up to who she is.

In terms of her kit being outdated - Her W is a puddle, her passive is spellvamp, her E is a point-click CC cockblock (because that's definitely both a fun spell to use or play against, definitely...) & her R is almost never used to its full potential - Why? Because even if Morg manages to land a four, five man initial cast on her R she's both not tanky enough to maintain the chains (hence why she needs Zhonya) & she has nothing in her kit that can stop multiple people (not just one with her Q) from utilizing mobility creep to get out of tether range.

In other words - Morg's kit is bland as can be in almost every aspect. That's not to say her R lacks potential - it would probably be awesome if it had a better kit built around it. It's just that...it doesn't.

**In terms of her kit not living up to her potential **- This one is pretty easy to explain. Morgana is a FALLEN ANGEL. She is supposed to be a being of IMMENSE CAPABILITY who held, challenged and corrupted DIVINE POWER only to fall and to become something even more powerful. That is what a FALLEN ANGEL is - An evil, extraordinarily strong being of great malevolence & magical capability.

And you know what Morg does to show that? SHE MAKES A PUDDLE. SHE HELPS HER TEAM. A BEING OF EVIL, HELPING HER TEAM INSTEAD OF PRIORITIZING HERSELF. She heals slightly from ability usage. I can't even stress how stupid this is, she's supposed to be the demonic equivalent to an angel's power & most of what she does is build support & completely rely on her E. I hate it and I'm not afraid to say it - Morg is a thematic letdown.

Now, I understand that RiotAugust (since he's the one doing the Kayle/Morg VGUs, bless his soul) understands well that Morg's passive & W are outdated and need work. But it's not just them - her E does not fit her character at all, her Q could probably be more interesting & her R never gets to see the spotlight because of the rest of her kit's lack of cohesiveness. So please, don't just look at her W/Passive - Look at the rest of her kit too because honestly, Morg needs serious work.

25 Comments

Rayjay Redfang8/6/2018, 7:33:54 PM7 votes

It seems that you just don't like her E because it blocks CC. Thematically it does make sense. It is a black magic shield that blocks spells. Like kayle, it is Morgan's divine intervention. She her power to block all spells. Something like that could only be accomplished by a divine being.

The post stated that her w and passive were subject to change. Her R isn't the greatest but it is unique in terms of ability activation and effect. Her R is something that won't be as useful every game. The concept of the shackles should stay, but I agree the execution should have more synergy with her new kit. Q in general is fine and it is morgana s most iconic ability.

I just have to point out that she does not rely on her E. She isn't a shield bot. She is a mage support not an enchanter. She contributes through cc and damage.

BEK Makadur8/6/2018, 10:50:50 PM2 votes

TBH morgs Ult is good as it is, yes you can even run out of it, but it is a teamfight ult. And focusing on getting out of her ult during a fight is worth alot on its own.

Benzaquen8/7/2018, 12:45:50 AM2 votes

You are kidding right?

90% of the post are raging about reworks/meta/new releases

Done258/6/2018, 7:28:18 PM2 votes

Morgan used to be a support oriented mage. Her pool would shred the MR of targets who stood inside of it. But this was removed because people would land Q (her main damage) before casting W to trap people in the pool. So they replaced the shred with a damage amp that worked off missing hp%.

Personally I think her kit could just use a new passive and some work on her R.

Passive: Dark Corruption - Dealing ability damage reduces enemy champion MR by 2/3/4 for 5 seconds. This ability stacks.

Q, W, and E are fine.

R - Needs...something. as you stated in your OP Morg lacks the stats needed to dive the enemy team outside of flash Zhonyas. Even then the enemy can still run away if she goes into stasis too quickly. However, if she waits too long she'll be melted like butter.

Alternates - Ability can be cast on at an ally to originate from them. (Ex. Morgana casts her R on a Garen who is in the middle of the enemy team.)

Ability is given a longer range. Either reduced to a cone for the original zone (shoots out a wave of chains) or perhaps as a point and and click singe target effect.

JackMcSnipeyz8/6/2018, 7:57:27 PM2 votes

changing her kit when it's perfectly fine and functional will be a slap to the face to all morgana players. I never play morgana, and im usually all for changing out dated kits, but morgana's kit is fine, and alienating morgana's player base for the sake of theme alone is not worth the amount of people who will have their champ's identity completley changed (from a support control mage to w/e you want her to become).

Oleandervine8/6/2018, 8:05:18 PM2 votes

While I agree that I'd like to see more done with her upcoming VGU, I disagree with your assumption that Morgana is evil. This isn't the case at all. Morgana fell out of agreement with her sister, who's all fire, brimstone, holy wrath, justice and all that. Morgana chose to turn to dark arts and sorcery to do battle with her sister's armies, but her lore has never painted her as evil in the slightest. She's crafty, she's misunderstood by her people and Kayle, and she's trying to do well in her own way. She's only fallen in the sense that she's been exiled from her people and homeland, and shunned by her sister - she's not fallen because she's evil. We still get the impression that Morgana is still very much willing to do good, just in her own way.

Ravenhale8/6/2018, 7:05:58 PM1 votes

There's nothing that says Morgana has to use her kit to help her team. Everything still works in a solo lane, albeit the puddle is perhaps one of the most boring ways to clear a minion wave and to play against. Very similar playstyle to Lux barring the difference of how they work their Ults into trades.

Her E was meant for her to trade well in mage lanes. She could ignore a portion of magic dmg and the usual CC most mages have. There's nothing wrong with an angel defying magic, so I don't know why this betrays her thematic. I guess because she can apply it to someone else? She's technically supposed to have the same sort of thing Kayle has, whom can also make a target of her choice invulnerable. I don't really see the break of theme.

Her passive echoes back to the days of spellvamp when Will of the Ancients was a thing and Hextech Revolver had sustain. Without these items (and the good old Spellvamp quints), you don't even notice she has a passive till you get about 4 points in her W (pretty much end of laning phase when you don't need to outsustain the assassin that has roamed bot for a double kill). I'm fine with her getting a new passive, because it feels like she doesn't even have one (though I feel this way about several champs).

I feel bad about losing her Torment Soil... but it is boring to play and play against. A better mid lane tool would be preferred. Something that has waveclear.

Heck, full on battle mage her. Revolve her kit around her E and R. Wade in with no cares with a passive and a new W that makes her a terror in close range. Sure, that's probably Vlad territory, but I think that fits her more than long range fishing with Dark Bindings (range nerf that too while we are at it).

Love playing Morg. Third most played champ (the other two being Leona and Poppy).

ModKnightsKemplar8/7/2018, 4:39:14 PM1 votes

I mean... they stated that they might look at her passive and W.

Her Q is iconic, and should not change. Her E is iconic, and really doesn't need to change.

Her ult, while you complain about it, is also a great ability that can be incredibly strong but still has good counterplay. Morgana has a good kit. I think it's actually really awesome that they are going to keep it intact; it proves that Riot really does value having some simple, consistent champs in the game. Making major changes to morg would actually be making changes for the sake of change. She isn't an unhealthy champ.

Sukishoo8/6/2018, 7:55:47 PM1 votes

It was talked about LONG ago that she'd have very few changes to her in the VGU. So, this is kind of OLD news. She really doesn't need many changes, just as Riot said, she has held up very well over time.

Phieldworker8/6/2018, 7:59:13 PM1 votes

Perhaps wait for an update to make judgements? They just announced the rework and said W and passive are the two things they are changing. But maybe they will change more who knows. They did it to Aatrox after the first time they revealed info about the update.

Also they mentioned why one was getting the full haul while the other less. Morg is still a huge favorite for people and has held up through time while Kayle is more of a support tryndamere

Meep Man8/7/2018, 2:10:54 AM1 votes

They are touching her Passive and W specifically is what they said.

sad þoy8/7/2018, 2:47:52 AM1 votes

I agree!!! They should be touching up her kit entirely, leaving what makes her core. Her CC and her spell shield.

zaire908/7/2018, 6:47:37 AM1 votes

Tf this Morg rework is the only one I'm excited for because theyre barely changing her and just updating her looks. There's no need to rework a champ that's fine that people started playing and getting accustomed to just to be alienated for a silly reason like this. Shes always been the mage support no need for it to change