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Placing new players too high.

Killbot999·5/30/2016, 5:12:57 AM·2 votes·565 views
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OK, so check this out. The "higher" ranked players on our team were 6/9 and 2/14, (wins and losses) relatively new players to ranked and placed in high bronze. On the other team they had a combined 1000 or so matches on their 2 highest ranked players this season so they were probably ranked where they should be. If you look down the roster for both teams, the same team had all the most experienced players. Not surprisingly the match was a one sided stomping with our previously mentioned jungle shyv 2/14 placing a grand total of 3 wards.....

I don't see how placing new ranked players in low silver/high bronze when they are obviously not at that level and pitting them against players with hundreds of games each is making balanced matches. I have seen this far too often where the "high ranked" player on my team (or the other team) will have no ranked history and no clue, while their opponent has a few hundred or thousand ranked games under their belt.

8 Comments

Emerald Fang5/30/2016, 5:16:12 AM2 votes

Yep. I completely agree with this. I suffered from this. I only won 3 ranked games in provisionals, and I got CARRIED. I am terrible at ranked! But I got into Bronze 1. I originally thought it was gonna be okay, but nope. Everyone flamed me b/c I was feeding when I couldn't do anything but lose. I'm in B2 right now. Not much better, but I'm gonna get demoted so hopefully B3 is okay.

Provisionals are fucked up. Just winning 4 games gets you into Silver 5. Winning 7, Gold 5. Most likely the new players will get carried.

CerealBoxOfDoom5/30/2016, 5:18:09 AM1 votes

who cares, if you see someone competent just shoot them a friend request and join forces.

PIuie Battante5/30/2016, 5:21:00 AM1 votes

You're legit Bronze 5 and you're saying this. oh lord lord lord.

Glaedr5/30/2016, 10:53:27 AM1 votes

Placement matches begin in high silver and adjust accordingly to W/L. Silver is where the vast majority of players are, so it would make sense for them to normally be there, but you're saying they're being placed too high in Bronze, which is pretty funny. I can assure you that's likely where they belong, since you can't really go much further in bronze.

TheEvilQueen1355/30/2016, 10:55:34 AM1 votes

my first season i got placed bronze 1, I won the majority at least, and i know two people who got place silver 5(but they did a cheap move and duo'd with high silvers) after losing majority of their games. Maybe i did get placed a little high...but I feel I deserved my placement more than the people that duo'd with a higher elo to get placed higher.

Fovere5/30/2016, 12:55:00 PM1 votes

placements are just that, placements.

You have to start somewhere, Riot decides to start you at the "average". Seems fine to me. You get ~10 matches where, based on performance, you will (or at least used to) rapidly swing up or down the ladder for subsequent matches. Since MMR is based on everyone else's MMR, there's an element of luck in terms of what MMR averages the MM system will give you for your matches and how much you can earn for a win.

A bad/newer player could get carried in some of the earlier matches, landing him a good bit higher than where he should be. So then he'll lose a few more and drop back down.

Elo needs several hundreds of games to stabilize, so placements arent going to make a huge difference if you're going to play out those 300-500 or so in a season.

Especially in Season 6, there will always be uneven match-ups, regardless of placements, newness, or any other factor. It's the average game you have to look at, and not the specific examples that lean one way or the other.

Killbot9996/1/2016, 3:14:58 AM1 votes

I guess everyone talking everyone rising and falling to where they should be over time makes sense. I just feel bad for the new ranked players in the previous listed match rocking the 15-18% win percentages in the meantime because they got placed too high. It makes about as much sense as the guys who are actually good (not me), who get dropped way below where they should be and easily carry out in a handful of dreadful, non-competitive wins.