I challenge you to the "ADC's Overrated" Challenge.

Following my 7/0 win streak as APC bot I decided to make a post to let others know of this (currently) impenetrable strategy. (Obviously not 100% guaranteed wins, but did I get your attention?) Facing off against many popular botlane comps and winning most of them with a relatively large advantage, I'm curious if I am the only one experiencing this feat?

Thus my challenge, or rather request is for you guys to also test this strategy out in botlane. I will give you some standard advice to go along the way, and am interested in other strategies and tactics you guys come up with.

Champions I have tried as APC:

Swain: Works really well in bot lane, make sure you have a support with pressure, some damage. Since you don't need the sustainability. I built a catalyst or blasting wand early, to follow up with ROA. Late game you can build highly counter intuitive, anything works really. If you think you need to be tanky, magic resistive or armour- go for it. Or if you want to go full CDR and rabadon, to follow up on the "carry" aspect of this strategy go for it. Try things out, but keep in mind, as swain you will be someone the enemy cannot ignore, just like an ADC but with more pressure and you need less protection. So either you build tanky or squishy, or tank penetrative, a lot of things work. For the early game I use my fizz pages focussed on 26/0/4 masteries, movement speed, base attack damage, base AP, scaling AP and take Hybrid runes (4.5 armour pen, 6.5 mpen). Keep in mind swain's E also increases your auto attack damage and your ignite's true damage. Early game you will win trades, but lose longer fights. If you are not confident you can kill your target in one go with some basic attacks and your E>Q>W + your supports pressure/damage, go for trades until you reach 6 and 100% win your 2v2 or if you reach your catalyst/blasting wand early before 6.

Either way try things out, other champions I have tried are ezreal (ap ofcourse, but with hybrid start for early auto attack damage just like swain) Orianna (same early level hybrid principle). Casseopia might work I can imagine, ryze, maybe xerath.

Of course there might be some things to be said against this strategy; "your team might not have enough AD"> remember AP>Magic resist, Armour>Attack damage (by a small margin), but still a valid point. "You won&'t have enough siege potential"> not necessarily true, remember the more AP you have the more damage your auto attacks will do on towers. If you really lack siege you can always choose to build a lichbane, which provides a lot of siege- if not the same as a normal low AS ADC build. It is true though that you will have to manage your mana and cooldowns when doing drake or baron, this is one of the setbacks. Any other problems you might encounter? Let us know in the suggestions below!

Yours sincerely, Apoz

PS. APC = Ability Power Carry, not AP burst, not AP nuke. (Champions with lower cool down abilities e.g. Cassiopea, ezreal, orianna. Ofcourse there is a debate on whether it’s an APC or AP burst (swain) but bear with what you think makes sense for now!)