What do you do if your ADC is bad and you are the support?

Lwnt·8/18/2016, 6:55:10 PM·4 votes·3,060 views
  1. Do you stick with them to the end?
  2. Do you abandon him or her and go to the champ that is carrying the team?

Keep in mind support income and exp is so dependent on the adc

25 Comments

Embertine8/18/2016, 7:04:37 PM4 votes

I go support the person who is carrying. It allows them to put more pressure and get even more kills easier.

And also support gold is not dependent on the ADC. Support items allow the support to get gold no matter who they are supporting. Same for exp.

Darkslayer858/18/2016, 6:55:38 PM3 votes

Roam.

Spoofghoul8/19/2016, 9:18:29 AM2 votes

build adc yourself

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and then report your adc for not building sightstone and taking your farm

Swiftstrike48/18/2016, 7:35:25 PM2 votes

In general, I feel no obligation to stay with my ADC after level 6 and only return to lane to soak up XP/take tower.

Lower Elo players (especially ADCs) expect the support to always be with them, but the reality is that after laning phase or when your ADC is very ahead or behind you don't need to stay with them.

It is more important for you to clear wards, ward, help secure objectives, or help mid lane.

Sometimes when I have a low Elo ADC they ping when I leave them even though I am helping teammates at dragon, take a tower mid, or laying wards. They just don't understand when laning phase ends and that it is now time to help push our lead in other ways.

A simple rubric:

**Q) The ADC is clearly not that good at farming in comparison to opposing ADC, but is not getting you or them-self killed. You may be getting zoned. ** A) Stay with the ADC a bit longer than normal. They understand they are outmatched AND are smart enough to not die. You should stick with them into mid game. Q) You and the ADC have each died once and the opponent will probably push their lead. It is likely you both will die again without help if you pick a fight. A) Leave lane to let you ADC soak up solo XP after 6/7. Tell him/her to be careful and to give up the tower if they must. Typically, lanes are lost if the opposing ADC gets two early kills and you derive little benefit by continuing laning phase. Do this unless you know your ADC is better than the opponent and your deaths were due to some gross misplay. Q) Your ADC is very capable and you already gave him or her some kills. A) Continue laning phase to push your lead and take the tower. After you both kill the lane opponents once however, expect help from enemy teammates on the next engage they have. Usually the jungler, or mid-laner will come if you appear to be winning. So stay with your ADC longer than you normally would to push your lead after they have 4 kills you can start roaming. Q) The tier 1 tower was lost but no one died. Your ADC just got pushed out of lane (maybe they had 4 bottom) A) Roam and ward around your ADC so they can farm safely. Q) Your ADC dies after picking a bad fight and may insult you for either making a mistake or a fictitious mistake. A) Leave lane and mute them. Once the ADC turns abusive I never help them in laning phase and let them "figure it out on their own". I usually give them a warning after the first comment that they can lane by themselves if they want. You together will probably feed the bottom lane if they turn toxic and blame you for every death. Just let them die and help your team. I will say, I don't have these situations happen often in higher elo. Most players in mid-gold and higher understand that blaming or being completely toxic with teammates during the game does NOT help anyone. When I play normals this happens A LOT because I get a silver or bronze ADC. In a normal, I am less inclined to help a crazy toxic ADC, even if it costs the game. Winning is simply not that important to me at that point. Q) Your ADC cannot farm and underestimates the enemy by picking bad fights. A) This suggests that the ADC is outclassed. Just leave lane after 6. You cannot stay with an ADC that makes poor decisions. Supports cannot fall too far behind.

Again a lot of these are situational and the ability to judge and individual's skill is largely bias since it is your own opinion of the champion they are playing AND a reflection of your skill. A silver support may immediately deem an ADC as "bad" after a misplay, but the reality may be the ADC is actually quite good and made a mistake. Then if you leave lane they get behind. So, it is important to really consider and ask "why you think they are bad" in your mind instead of just saying "they are bad".

  • Is their positioning bad?
  • Is their ability to last hit poor?
  • Are they taking a lot of damage while farming?
  • Are they playing across the river?
  • Can they farm under tower?
  • Are they missing their skill shots?
  • Are they managing their mana?

You should consider these questions when you think the ADC is "bad" before you immediately judge them.

TyrekGoldenspear8/18/2016, 9:49:24 PM2 votes

If you're playing Taric I recommend standing off to the side and dancing to distract the enemy bot and support long enough for your ADC to farm up. Use Pink Taric for best results.

If it doesn't work try roaming and helping the mid laner rack up kills to carry mid and hopefully end.

Dead Echo8/18/2016, 7:25:36 PM1 votes

Depends on what you mean by bad. If they keep getting caught out even with vision then I Leave to another lane, but if they're just bad at laneing against the opponents and don't die a lot then I try to stick around a little but put more efforts into the other lanes to compensate.

MunchCrunchLunch8/19/2016, 3:18:44 AM1 votes

you build full crit on that soraka..

Athenes Lulu8/18/2016, 8:12:56 PM1 votes

Grow some patience and wait till laning is over.

Then find someone else to support. I mean I got 3 more people to babysit after all.

I don't recommend roaming during early game as roaming at the wrong times will screw your entire team over in terms of their EXP and snowball the enemy botlane even more because of putting your ADC in a 1v2.

Sona x Rubick8/18/2016, 7:00:19 PM1 votes

depend on he champ you have.

you won't do shit by roaming with janna.

Legacy Hydralpha8/18/2016, 11:32:29 PM1 votes

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You carry.

/s

Xonra8/19/2016, 12:51:06 AM1 votes

Abandoning the ADC will likely just put them further behind, lose you turrets, and make your team angry (including mid who you are likely leeching xp off of now and putting THEM behind).

IF you are losing lane, you just gotta stick it out, hope your jungler bothers to help like they should, and just try to keep the tower up. You just have to try and keep going and hope team fights improve and that your adc chills out.

Persevence8/18/2016, 7:03:04 PM1 votes

I have the similar issue, with Jhin as my ADC and I was going as Alistar.

Here's what i can learn, I say let them take the Tier 1 Bot turrent. This would allow our ADC to simply farm. Now if you want to roam, you gotta play like the jungler. OH 'Roam"!! It wouldn't work because people won't listen or they tell you to leave. Just make sure people know you're coming and just sweep the lane.

Keepe8/18/2016, 7:15:31 PM1 votes

You go Veigar support, steal the kills the Bad ADC chooses not to earn, turn into an unstoppable giggling tactical nuke, fiddle while Rome burns.