Do I need to play filthy?

Shallowillow·12/27/2019, 12:57:40 PM·1 votes·2,901 views

Punk. Thats what I think of league's gameplay with its stud jacket and all. So, how can I fit in? I think in coop vs ai (bots) or low level games I would have to "bully"/"lane bulling" (gank ashe) to win. I think there was a youtube video of this many years ago. The reason is that it's easier to 5v4 and 3v1 like sun tzu and clausewitz said something about numerical superiority. So when the target split pushes or is farming early game, you gank them like twisted fate. I would feel dirty after if I did that. It also has the added benefit of being easy enough for team to do and understand as a strategy.

The floyd style of cheap point fighting to get filthy rich quick and still look pretty.

Ultimately what I'm asking, is there any more LESS filthy ways of effectively carrying a horrible team?

Shallowillow

5 Comments

Ashe mage AD12/27/2019, 1:07:48 PM1 votes

I think there was a youtube video of this many years ago.

You mean Siv HD's Ashe hunger games?

Brutalitops0112/27/2019, 2:01:02 PM1 votes

I've personally never seen it as "playing filthy." You see, both teams are playing to win. This will include roaming, ganking, and helping their teammates get leads when possible. Knowing that your opponent will use these tactics against you, you must then adapt to use these same tactics against them in order to keep things fair.

Being a jungle main, I have several times been yelled at for making the game "unfair" by ganking my teammates. But that's part of my job as the jungler: giving my teammates an advantage. I try to give kills when possible, if I don't risk them killing my teammate or escaping by doing so (I had one time where I went to give a kill from a gank on Nunu and my Aftershock procced the damage portion of it, killing the target on accident. Funny moments like these are good). There will be games where I get outjungled and my opponent takes all the objectives and ganks every lane enough to get their team ahead. There will also be times when I do the same.

Let's use Fiora as an example for something for you to think about. Fiora, generally, has a pretty weak early game, particularly when dealing with other bruisers. However, she turns any matchup that she is in into a skill matchup based around her W: Riposte. Riposte makes Fiora immune to everything for 0.75 seconds before stabbing her blade out in a line in front of her, damaging and slowing enemies for 1 second. If she blocked a hard crowd control effect (basically anything that prevents her from moving, like a stun, knockup, or snare) in the duration, she instead stuns the first champion hit.

The existence of a solid amount of % max health true damage and healing in her passive makes her a strong pick into tanks, despite her weakness to bruisers. Not to mention, tanks tend to have more hard crowd control effects, which is normally an asset when dealing with bruisers. A good Fiora, on the other hand, can stomp tanks consistently due to her % max health true damage, healing, and stun.

But the big thing about Fiora is her split push and 1v1 potential. A Fiora playing her best will never be killed in a 1v1 in the late game, and she will split push and kill your base before you're even able to react. It always takes more than 1 person to stop a late game Fiora, and her healing and ultimate give her the ability to rack up big multikills if the enemy team doesn't send enough people her way. Because of this late game, it may draw junglers to come gank a Fiora while she's in her weak lane phase. On the enemy side, they will try to shut her down. On the ally side, they will try to get her a lead and get her to that unstoppable late game faster. And trust me, you do NOT want to see a Fiora on 2 items at 15 minutes.

While her early game matchup is entirely a skill-based matchup, the later the game goes, the more she'll be able to kill any single enemy that comes to try to fight her, and the more single enemies she'll be able to kill alone before she goes down if multiple come to fight her, and pretty much all of these at this point depend on the Fiora's skill alone.

2gudaiya12/27/2019, 2:16:07 PM1 votes

yes you do have to play filthy to win. I call it playing without honour, opponents can't honour you anyway so be as dishonourable to them as you want, they do the same to you afterall.

Shrek Luigi12/27/2019, 6:11:40 PM1 votes

don't brush your teeth or take any showers for at least a week before playing; you gotta be as filthy as possible if you wanna win

Lovelle12/27/2019, 9:38:27 PM1 votes

If you've studied Sun Tzu and Clausewitz, you should know that concepts like "dirty" and "clean" don't matter when it comes to completing objectives. All that matters is the result, especially in a game as imbalanced as LoL.

9 times out of 10, your opponents will be looking for the easiest win possible, so there's no need to hold yourself back morally.