Viktor zed or katarina?

smilemaster8·12/1/2017, 11:28:25 AM·1 votes·913 views

So I was thinking to myself: Im seriously lvl 33 and have no champs that have masrtery 6. I got ww but hes lvl 5. So now im wondering who is a good champ to main? From my experience (not much) I think viktor can easily poke but his range on Q is trash. For zed he can do alot of damage with W E Q but can be squishy. I never played katarina but she seems to do good damage and has great escapes.

Who is the best according to you guys? I would like pros and cons Appreciate it alot 😀 (If theres any other champs u would recommend I also play jng and dont rly have a main for that either.)

9 Comments

Binding Eclipse12/1/2017, 11:36:26 AM1 votes

Tough question to answer knowing nothing about your favored playstyles, but here are some general thoughts if they help at all.

Don't underestimate Viktor's Q. He can be underwhelming because assassins still run the mid lane, but the sick baits you can pull off with your W...mmm, Viktor.

Zed is probably the most skill-intensive of the three, and has a better risk:reward ratio so far as I'm concerned. Katarina relies a lot on catching your enemies' missteps, while Zed (and Viktor to a lesser extent), is a lot better for** forcing **those missteps and capitalizing on them to boot.

Viktor is the only one that lacks mobility as a big negative point, but his engage is usually not so risky as to warrant it. He'd be the safest option if you learn to utilize his kit to the fullest, but easier to counterpick.

OurLestrade12/1/2017, 11:46:37 AM1 votes

For the world of solo queue you want someone who can look after themselves without team help, so that removes Viktor. And personally on my list you should avoid AD mids unless absolutely necessary since again, in solo queue, everyone picks AD so the enemy just stacks armour and you're useless. So with that in mind I'd probably pick Kat.

ku ni chi wa12/1/2017, 12:01:53 PM1 votes

zed needs a high skill cap!!!!

viktor ... there is no counterplay and his skills r impossible to dodge.

kata is useless garbage! the champ with the most counterpicks! u could reach plat 1 with kata easy..... from diamond u gonna struggle!

go play Annie Ahri Orianna TwistedFate Vladimir ... they r good and u can run down every elo!

mosaickle12/1/2017, 12:28:33 PM1 votes

Zed - He's the flashy playmaker but otherwise he's pretty lackluster in teamfights. His entire kit is based off singling out and ensuring a quick death but only for one target, although if you get really good at him you could do two or even three at a time. But for the most part he's designed for ensuring a death for the enemy team, but otherwise he doesn't bring much more to the table.

Viktor - He's pretty much a medium ranged walking weapon of mass destruction, but since he has little mobility and, as mentioned before, medium ranged, he does require quite a bit of practice to be great. Once you do learn him, he can be very satisfying to play, but otherwise don't expect as easy pentakills as let's say someone like Katarina. He's great if you're willing to put in the time to get good with him since he brings amazing AoE damage and reasonable CC.

Katarina - She brings little to nothing other than raw damage to a team composition, albeit quite a bit of damage. She's definitely a champion whose reward scales off your skill. Ever since the rework which made her no longer faceroll, she still requires some time to break in, but of all the champions you mentioned, she technically can be the most destructive. The only downside is that you're sure to receive buckets of salt from the enemy team.

ZedUsanGovos12/1/2017, 12:49:26 PM1 votes

It all depends. Viktor and Zed share similarities in their zoning potential (if the enemy is bad), but they overall play far more differently. Kat is alike Zed in the sense that they both wait for their target to be really low and go in.

Viktor, like many mages, works best on waveclear and poking in laning phase. Your E and Q deal insane amounts of damage mid-game to late-game, and as a mage, Viktor scales far harder than Zed or Kat.

Zed, like many AD Assassins, works best on poking and roaming in laning phase. He does have a huge number of counters though (most of which are almost all the midlane mages), and doesn't scale as hard. It's better to have a scaling ADC on your team like Draven, Twitch, or Tristana, because if you can't end with Zed, you'll fall off, but your team can continue and you can provide support here and there.

Kat, like many AP Assassins, works best on poking and roaming in laning phase. She has some counters (most of which are probably mages), and scales harder than Zed, but scales less than say, Viktor or Syndra. She's adept at turning entire groups of squishies to lumps of flesh if you play her properly. Her AP advantage over Zed allows for armor to be useless, and forces people to build any MR. If they're autistic, they won't.

Zed and Kat are interesting. Although I've got most of Zed's core mechanics down (and I'm far from the best Zed NA), I've struggled with Kat properly. Weaving in the W as I jump from unit to unit is just... difficult for me. Zed has a kit that's easy to pick up (anyone can WEQ), but difficult to master. Not everyone can W+R+E+Flash+W+Q+R. It took me a while to get it down pat properly.

Kat's kit is similar, and a matchup between the two is a skill-matchup. The better player wins. I can do a basic Q+E+R+W, but anything higher than that and my mind explodes. Mostly because as Kat, I feel that I move much faster than I do as Zed-- consequently resulting in me not understanding what I'm doing. Idk. Maybe I haven't played enough Kat myself.

Logically, I'd suggest going with Viktor, as he does work better in team-fights, his W+R can change entire team-fights (like at Baron or Elder or any other contestable objective), and he also scales FAR harder than Zed and Kat. The only downside is your lack of mobility in comparison, but I'd think your increase in power over Zed and Kat works to your advantage.

But I'm an illogical individual, so I say Zed. He's easy enough to pick up, and mastering him is far more fun than Talon or Lux (from my experience). He works great in SoloQ, and since most ADCs played these days are hyperscalers, keeping your ADC safe while you take out their backline (or frontline) pays off. He's the Poster Boy of assassins, as he has the ideal kit (ranged dmg, melee dmg, mobility with a fairly high cooldown early game), as well as the Poster Boy of Outplays (look at the moves, Faker, what was that?).

Then again, it's up to you. I'd suggest trying each one out in a Bot Game (Int-ermediate, anyone?), and seeing which champion you feel more comfortable with. That's how I made up my mind between Ahri, Zed, and Twisted Fate. I kept running Bot Games of each one until I felt fluid with one of them, at which point I'd take them into actual PvP, which is how I fell in love with Zed (no homo). Ahri was fun ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), felt too slow in comparison to Zed, and Twisted Fate, although he was the first champion I technically "mained", wasn't as fun.