Supporting and Kills

Awk·2/11/2015, 6:18:30 AM·2 votes·1,164 views

I'm not entirely sure if there is a thread for this specific topic I am asking. However I was wondering about thoughts on supports and kills. I main support and lately have been having a few bad games. Everyone wins and loses now and then but at the end of one game my jungler blamed me for doing poorly because I ended the game 0/4. Now I know ending in the negatives is not a good thing but I had 20+ assists, as I support I try not to take kills because I want my ADC to get them, or other members of the team. My question is, "Are supports supposed to get kills and end in the positives all the time?" (If they have no kills are they "bad"?) Thresh The reason is because it bugged me a bit to here I was to blame for us losing.

6 Comments

Diostukos2/11/2015, 6:21:58 AM1 votes

A lot of people actually get mad when the support gets kills. Most people gauge and supports play by the d/a ratio.

I guess there are exceptions with the more damage-oriented supports like Zyra Xerath Velkoz Veigar

Hell Week2/11/2015, 6:25:29 AM1 votes

Nah man... 4 deaths can't really make that much of an impact unless that happened early game and gave the enemy lane complete advantage. Supports will eventually take kills by accident, it will happen... that doesn't make you a "kill stealer" you're just there in team fights doing what you do. If you went 20+ assists with 4 deaths, that's pretty damn good my friend. Always remember people will hate you for being good and they will hate you for being bad.People are really ungrateful, most games im going completely godlike and my teams just start to feed on purpose in order to make me "mad" or just to give me a loose.Just do you man, and don't let this negative people affect you, cause man... they're everywhere.

Dreadlocks2/11/2015, 6:27:33 AM1 votes

If you are contributing to a lot of kills (assists) then u dont need kills. Ur job as a support isnt to get kills.. you are NOT the carry.. You are the support, you set up kills, vision up the map, and die for your carries if the situation calls for it.

SquirrellyOtter2/11/2015, 6:40:01 AM1 votes

Occasionally dying as support keeps the enemy worth gold for your ADC to keep farming.

But in all seriousness screw those guys. Support is such a hard role to learn and certainly is underappreciated during game. Only 4 deaths is really good. And as support, your job is to support the rest of your team. Without your utility, vision, heals, whatever, they can't be the stars they are.

No one remembers defensive linemen in football, but if you pay attention, you'll notice that good defenses win more games in football than good offenses.

freeformline2/11/2015, 8:05:32 AM1 votes

A low kill count is not a bad thing on supports. Supports champions are distinguished by their ability to contribute to the team with very little gold. They lane with a high damage champion, typically an ADC, to help them get enough gold to carry the middle and late game. This is why supports tend to avoid killing lane minions when an ally is near enough to take them instead, and it is why they try to avoid taking kills if a carry is near enough to deal the finishing blow. Barring solo kills, my ideal KDA on a support is 0/0/X, where X is any large number, preferably at least half as large as my total team kill count. I get enough gold from assists to keep up with the team, while the damage dealers on my team get the kill gold, allowing them to snowball ahead of our opponents. Of course, it is important to keep from dying whenever possible, since your deaths will give enemies gold. The exception is sacrificing yourself to prevent the death of a teammate, if you believe your teammate's survival will be more beneficial for your team than your own. That said, don't throw yourself into harm's way unless you are certain your fed Draven will escape; it's not usually worth the risk of giving up two kills instead of one.

It is fine to get some kills as a support, especially if you are securing a kill that might have otherwise escaped. You should be fine as long as your kill count isn't higher than your ADC's, unless your lane partner is very unskilled or having connection issues. If someone tries to criticize a support for having a low kill count, it only means that they don't understand how the support role functions, and aren't really worth listening to. Be cheerful and friendly, enjoy the game, and make the most of your limited playing time.

Only Play Darius2/11/2015, 8:25:17 AM1 votes

The kind of people who say your a bad support for going 0/4/20 are the same people who would scream at you for KS if you went 8/4/20.

Ignore these trash players, just peel, ward, buff, and debuff your team to victory and move up divisions while you leave these idiots behind.