Why do people play full ap "supports", for example Lux, Brand, Morgana, hell even Ahri. It makes the lane no fun for really either side, I can understand playing aggressive supports, but theres no need to add insult to injury by building; Morello, Liandries, Void Staff, Sorcs, and Archangels. I just dont comprehend why this is fun for people. I dunno. edit: Fixed "ass" to "add"
Because when your team is composed of Master Yi, Yasuo, Zed and... pretty much any ADC (if you're lucky), your team is grossly overspecialized and you need a proper mage to balance out the composition. Besides, most of these assholes also take your buffs and run away from the enemy team with them.
Morgana is not a full ap support because if she was building to support her adc she would build to make her spell shield be more effective or build to make her abilities have effects such as slows with Rylai's or Twin Shadows but she obviously needs Zhonyah's for her ult.
Brand is a full ap support but he is also a good support because he uses his burn passive to synergize with Rylai's and his ult is most effective in a lane with more than 1 person and he has his stun that he can proc with his passive.
Lux is not a full ap support because if she was building to support her adc she would focus her build around making her shield as strong as possible and focus on engaging with her root.
There are many other "full ap supports" aswell such as Zyra, Orianna, Fiddlesticks, Swain, and even Veigar, all these "full ap supports" are very good and effective because they have a kit that is either cc heavy, has massive AOE cc (veigar), or they work better in lanes with 2 people (also veigar with his passive ap scaling).
also your not really explaining why it is "no fun" for either side i mean at least explain why it is not as effective as a healing support, tank support, hooking supports, or heavy cc support instead of just saying its "no fun" because that's not exactly a valid argument against full AP supports.
also the only items you listed that i ever see being build on full ap supports are Sorc boots or Liandries usually but off the top of my head only brand comes to mind when i think of a full ap support going Liandries, and the only times i ever see supports going Morello is when they are laning against a soraka or another heavy healing support.
I have never heard of a support that's not trolling that goes Archangels or Void staff.
The certain "supports" i dont believe should be played by anyone who isnt trolling is champions like Vel'Koz, Zoe, Neeko, Cho'Gath, Cassiopeia, Malzahar, Karthus, Xerath, Annie, Sylas, Mordekaiser, Teemo, Malphite, or Shaco (maybe shaco but I have not had any good experiences with shaco EVER working as a support)
They're a strong counter to a lot of bot lanes and an important part of many team comps. Simple as that.
Early win, and lane phase, and if combined with an ADC that has good self protection, then it works good.
Many people especially on lowelo forgets, that the game is more, than just lane phase. They think, that win the lane equals winning the game, and if this fails, then it's 100% teammates fault.
I played with such support. I won't reveal the strongest, because that's a pure cancer to play against, but even with 20% accuracy i won botlane. On my very first game i had S rank with that. But it's a trap. Win lane phase, and unless you are fed as hell, then lose midgame. If enemy got one or two skilled assassin then lose the whole game.
As for the fun part. Some people love being the guy who kills the enemy, and deals tons of damage. Who doesn't like to see as they DELETE an enemy with Lux.
I think a lot of people think the support is just there for the adc. That is not how I see the support role at all. I see it as some one that thru thier abilities facilitate your team winning the game. If I am playing a more ap support, it's for either winning laning= more $ for the adc, or making up for a weak adc early game. If I m playing q engage support it's for cc ing champs so my team can kill them. If I am playing a buff/ heal/ shield support it's to buff/ peel for an important target. Which shock of the world to adc mains it is not always the adc.
I can't tell you the number of times I have done all but 100 damage to some one in laning and the adc is cs 2 minions instead of 2 aa, on the cced nd ignited champ.
Because adcs aren’t worth the investment anymore. We can’t kill bruisers anymore because they all heal for their entire health bars, and we die to a sneeze from any other class without counterplay. At this point adc is just a glorified objective nuke.
Lux has a support build and W max that's been around a bit, and she has a stun and a slow, adding to kill pressure. Brand has a stun and plenty of damage, including damage over time in which the ADC can secure the kill before Brand's abilities go off, if needbe. Morgana is a hard counter to many supports with her black shield, has a stun which can be used to engage and disengage, Ahri has a charm with plenty of poke and a chasedown ult in case the ADC can't get into range to secure kills.
Also, fun fact, many support utility abilities, like heals and shields, scale with AP, so if you're ahead, it's actually better for certain champions (like Sona) to go full AP as their healing, shielding, and damage will be much higher than if they went a full utility route.
Most things can support. If they can protect you and help you survive in lane that's it really aside from also vision control(which is also a team effort), theres aa reason those supports you mentioned have higher WRs as support than Mid, it is because they are capable of doing those things.
because the league of legends player base is dishonorable.
And dunno Morgana i can understand, 'cause he is a support nowadays. And she has hel million year bind, spell shield and her ult
But the others? I have no idea
