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How is Vayne and Nasus BUFF even a thing to THINK about?

JulianMX·1/9/2019, 4:22:27 PM·15 votes·7,620 views

Do you realize now nasus can get like double amount of stacks than before in the same minute no?

So what enemy team has to do, the jungler has to camp only top in early game? And what? He can be 0-5 he will still stack and recover all.

And why 5 people has to be looking for one guy? So the other 4 in his team get free advantage? If you dont look for him his 4 team mates will not get free advantage but he will so its a mirror.

Vayne buffs. ULT + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible) + Q (invisible)

How you win against that? How you target her? She was annoying think about now.

I never saw some stupid buffs in ages, I saw others that were bad but this stupid never. Who think this was a good idea?

The only way to win this matchups it is if you are in the side that is winning 100%.

This buffs make that if enemy team its at the same level as your team or a bit higher you cant throw the match. That is the problem.

48 Comments

Seiferoth1/9/2019, 4:32:51 PM11 votes

Vayne buff is to sell Prestige Vayne passes.

Śhunpo1/9/2019, 4:55:22 PM3 votes

Yeah, I tested the Nasus buff out in game as jungle Nasus.....it's gonna break him in low-mid elos. You can legitimately get 400+ stacks by 10 minutes if you play resourceful enough, which I'm just not a fan of. See, this buff would be fine by itself, but then you remember the buff he got yay back to his ult and now you've got a Nasus that stacks faster hitting you with a Q every 2 seconds on average.

Sorry, but whoever says this buff isn't incredibly unnecessary and stupid clearly doesn't play enough Doge to know.

As for the Vayne buff, give it a patch, people will realise just how counter-intuitive to Vayne's design it really is.

Illabethe1/9/2019, 4:58:20 PM3 votes

The only way to beat the Vayne buff is probably long range artillery.

Zyra for example has the range on E to actually hit her and then Q/R. And most Vayne's won't waste Tumble when a target is out of range, risking putting it on a long charge period where she can't renew its cooldown (no target = no recharge).

Lux maybe

But..... that's kind of it o.O

boricCentaur11/9/2019, 4:38:37 PM3 votes

You get the same amount of stacks in lane YOU GET DOUBLE STACKS FOR KILLS AND IN JG in other words this buff does nothing since if he gets kill early its because the other top sucks and nasus will snowball meaning nothing will change a fed nasus is a fed nasus. Also nasus has nothing to gank with so him in jg will suck.

BeNiceToOthers1/9/2019, 8:27:01 PM3 votes

I feel like people are exaggerating how strong vayne will be after the patch. She will not be permanently stealthed until late game AND have 45% cdr. Which hint hint, she doesn't build cdr. this buff is just a quality of life buff more than anything else

Ragnaveil1/9/2019, 4:43:19 PM2 votes

Here's the thing about Vayne: She.has.to.land.the.auto.to.gain.the.reset. So, for as much as you think this is a stupid 1v5 buff, its only a QoL buff for Vayne players and that's about it.

Bârd1/9/2019, 9:50:53 PM2 votes

The Nasus buff means pretty much nothing. You get another 6 stacks every three creep waves. Assuming nobody's being dumb enough to let you get kill stacks, that's an average of +4 stacks per minute.

You can get more value out of that if you're jungle Nasus, but if you're jungle Nasus you get invaded and feed your ass off.

Hell, even if you get a ton of stacks you're still Nasus. 650 stacks means jack shit in teamfights because you can't reach the guy you want to.

He'll stomp slightly harder in Iron and remains useless once teams learn to kite you and ADC's learn to buy QSS.

5050BS1/10/2019, 8:55:57 PM1 votes

Ya the Nas and Vayne buffs are spot on for Riot. Well they need someone to challenge Sylus when he goes live.

ValiantKiller1/12/2019, 7:21:05 PM1 votes

Welcome to balance team.

A Bad Nasus1/9/2019, 9:07:14 PM1 votes

The Nasus buff did almost nothing for toplane, his jungling, on the other hand, appreciates it wholeheartedly.

Critmaster Garen1/9/2019, 9:28:56 PM1 votes

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Do you realize now nasus can get like double amount of stacks than before in the same minute no?

its doubled on cannon minions, large monsters and champions, not on everything. this means best case scenario he stacks about 20% faster.

and hes still going to be useless because he cant get in range of anyone to q them.

HateDaddy1/10/2019, 1:58:04 AM1 votes

I agree that the nasus buffs shouldn’t have gone through but you are vastly overstating his stack rate currently. He’s not doubling his stacks, he’s probably getting an extra 120 stacks now compared to what he used to get. I still think this is a problem and only makes him more stupid to fight 1v1, but let’s be clear about what is actually happening. This also doesn’t help his weaknesses at all.

VelvetCrotch1/10/2019, 4:11:57 AM1 votes

I agree. Instead of at least nerf Nasus' Ult if they buff his Q. And Vayne... idk... o_O

AidanWR1/10/2019, 7:34:11 AM1 votes

The Nasus buff is really only good if the Nasus is ahead, or a farm lane. If he is pushed off minions, there is a lower chance of him getting stacks outside of the cannon or even getting the cannon at all, but the problem is is that an ahead Nasus will snowball even harder. I was able to 1v4 and get three kills and survive before the buff as an ahead Nasus, but that's only while ahead. I can't really tell how devastating it will be until I see him throughout the patch.

That being said, as an adc main, I don't like the buff

Jhint Eastwood1/10/2019, 8:46:09 PM1 votes

Oh god, this is farm from a buff guys. She needs to be in a teamfight and that means IN a teamfight. That means getting autos off. Even if one person on your team focuses her, she's done. It's a whole other issue if you position bad and allow her to pick you one by one. No one can keep track of 20 abilities silmultaniosly. Just don't allow her to be in the environment she's at her strongest and you win. That's what League was all about and I'm glad to see it going that way again. Acting as a team and making important decisions. I'm also glad the "burst someone down and win the game" phase is slowly going to an end, because LoL was incredibly stupid during that time.