So what kind of support do people find healthy?

Orange Caramel·4/9/2018, 4:36:19 PM·19 votes·11,751 views

So far I have heard:

Janna Lulu Soraka - Braindead boosted players just spam shield/heal Thresh TahmKench - Too hard to catch adc out with lanturn/tahm w instantly saving them Blitzcrank Morgana - All they do is land 1 skillshot and then give adc free kills even if the adc is bad Brand - Does too much damage as a support

So then what supports DOES boards find healthy, or does boards just hate all supports in this game.

128 Comments

Verxint4/9/2018, 5:11:39 PM26 votes

Taric

Athenes Lulu4/9/2018, 7:10:33 PM20 votes

Bard Zilean Nami

You have to be good at the champ and have supporting knowledge, can dish out reasonable amounts of damage and utility depending on builds, and even if you're good, you still have weaknesses that the enemy can find ways to play around.

xelaker4/9/2018, 9:35:42 PM11 votes

people are just butthurt that supports aren't as easy of a target anymore. they want ward bots to be walking around for free gold. Now that support bard turns around and makes you taste the power of meep! [sg-syndra]

chipndip14/9/2018, 4:59:27 PM11 votes

None of them really, but generally speaking, there are some that are ACTUALLY unhealthy for the game, like Janna.

z63XnLCMwX4/9/2018, 4:47:01 PM9 votes

Leona

Ahristocats4/9/2018, 5:12:39 PM9 votes

excuse me?

thresh lantern can be blocked, and if the dude is cc'ed he can't take it

saltran4/9/2018, 7:05:54 PM9 votes

"So then what supports DOES boards find healthy, or does boards just hate all supports in this game."

I feel that a lot of ppl just wants Supps to be ward dispensers without game agency. I mean, if they hate enchanter supps, tank supps and mages supps maybe it's just that they hate supps as a role.

Teridax684/9/2018, 5:43:25 PM8 votes

Bard I think is a consistently popular support, including for players playing against him. He gives plenty of opportunities to both his allies and opponents, and has a kit that isn't too overly focused on saving allies or stun-locking enemies, so he doesn't feel excessively frustrating even when he's played well.

Nami is another support who's generally well-liked by the Boards. She feels fair to play against, but also satisfying to play, and has a diverse array of tools that, again, lets her assist allies and disable enemies, but without ever shutting someone down completely at the press of a button.

By contrast, the major problem with many of the supports mentioned in the OP is that they frequently have this one button they press that can instantly shut down much more skillful plays. Enchanters typically have this problem due to an excessive portion of their power budget being placed onto on-demand shielding or healing, and particular champions like Lulu, Morgana, Thresh, Blitz, etc. are also notorious for having one CC ability that can easily stop certain champions from playing the game entirely. Mage supports tend to frustrate ADC players because their high bases and relative independence from scalings means they can easily deal a lot of damage in a squishy lane, which feels cheap, and it's especially irritating when these same mages also have damage that is relatively easy to apply, as has been the case for Brand and Malzahar in the past.

JustMonika134/9/2018, 4:49:01 PM8 votes

I enjoy fighting against and respect good Rakan and Nami players

Respect to god Thresh players too.

NekoniClaws4/9/2018, 11:44:01 PM6 votes

A lot of players consider ADC overpowered and don't think it should have a dedicated defender.

That's why when you play support you hear stuff like- 'Oh, OF COURSE Lulu polymorphs me when I go in! EVERY TIME.' Um... no way, really? Holy moly, I thought my character was just a CUTE DECORATION that followed the ADC around.

I literally haven't played a sup that people don't flame over. Even Thresh and Bard get the schtick.

Sona Ping4/9/2018, 9:16:09 PM5 votes

The kind that doesn't do anything to stop them from winning the game. Aw geez, I guess they must find those really healthy and interactive ones to be a good support instead of the unhealthy and uninteractive ones.

ZackTheWaffleMan4/9/2018, 10:44:34 PM5 votes

Braum. He's fit af.

Little Padawan4/10/2018, 9:48:07 PM3 votes

Janna looks healthy. She's really in shape, must have a good clean diet.

Leopardo1444/10/2018, 3:06:18 AM3 votes

Most just want a "healthy" one being one that's feeding their team. Also is Poppy support okay or no?

Sp33d Zer04/10/2018, 3:19:11 AM3 votes

Hmmm knowing the boards is say it's any kind of support that doesn't do anything at all that helps an adc survive.

ZaneShadow4/10/2018, 6:11:08 AM3 votes

So as a support main, here’s my two cents. Almost every support is fine, with strong counterpicks. Some have really anoying abilities like Janna’s Mega shield and Ult. But pick Leona into her and watch the adc cry. Sorraka? Zyra with a rushed Morelos. Tahm Kench? Why do you think Brand support is a thing? There’s kind of s triangle of support meta.

Tanks<poke Poke<sustain Sustain<Tank

Tank supports like Taric, Leona, Alistar, and others have hard engagements that nothing can sustain through pre 6, and after that their Ult CD are usually lower. Poke champions murder tanks as they have to walk into range of both the ADC and them to get any gold. However, they usually can’t poke hard enough that a sorraka or Nami can’t just heal it back up.

Obviously this is only a vague guideline with lots of exceptions like Sorraka opting into the poke item vs tanks or whatever the crap Rakan is as some weird front line enchanter who wants to be a tank but isn’t. But if you went in knowing nothing, this would help you figure out what to pick and if you should play conservatively or aggressively if you picked first.

BobaFlautist4/10/2018, 3:36:56 PM2 votes

Supports won't be able to be healthy until they're decoupled from adcs.

People love to blame tanks for the weakness of bruisers, but the real problem is that supports exist to make adcs immune to divers and assassins. Currently, if a well-played support cannot do this, they're useless, so bruisers literally cannot function the way they're intended to late-game.

ChaddyFantome4/10/2018, 8:56:00 PM2 votes

None. Supports by there very design are meant to enable allies and disable enemies. That's the entire point and appeal of a support. you interact with the game indirectly through other players.

The only people who don't bitch about supports are support players, because everyone else just sees them as a cockblock. _Even tho that's the supports job. _

It's like asking what is healthy for an assassin to the boards. No one finds them healthy because their job is to pick ppl off and no one likes being picked off.

The only state in which people won't complain about them is if we make them wardbots again.

Quite frankly, the fact that people are actually bitching about supports is a good thing. It shows that supports have finally reached a point where they are actual champions, because previously they were essentially half champions. Every champ in the game gets complained about otherwise. Every single one.

People bitching about supports to a certain degree is actually healthy in this regard.

VICHEL CHAOS4/9/2018, 10:07:54 PM1 votes

Well, supports that cannot keep their carry alive on their own if a 7-0 assassin jumps on them would be nice for a starter. Something that doesnt invalidate whole classes from working would also be nice. Im thinking leona, thresh, bard, lux, karma, nami, taric.

Basically things that do not have an instant "you cannot die" button.

On the subject of mage supports doing too much damage, if supports didnt have the stupid gold income and extremely efficient items they have access to nowadays it wouldn't be a problem in the first place, or if they had to sacrifice vision/gold generation to get that damage or postpone the damage. And I still prefer them over the "my adc walked into their fountain but its all right" supports.

Hexs Fortune4/10/2018, 12:15:35 AM1 votes

Karma