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Can we NOT have new/reworked champs in ranked immediately?

Ms Critical Hit·4/4/2018, 6:16:46 PM·22 votes·1,071 views

Essentially it feels like being held hostage. Your teammate hovers the new or reworked champ, and you either ban it and they int/cry/whine for 25 minutes, or you let them pick it and then they end up feeding non-stop all game while crying about how the champion "isn't good" or "they didn't get ganks." There are obvious exceptions while they do well, but I find that it's mostly a negative experience that tends to lead to frustrations from not only myself, but other teammates.

Can't we just avoid this problem and remove the new/reworked champs from ranked games for a few days, until people are actually familiar with the new champion? And even to counter that issue, why not make it so you can't ban the new champion in norms for a few days so people can test it and not feel compelled to do it in ranked? Ranked is a way to showcase your skills and to see how high you can get on the champions you understand. Not a way to test and learn the newly released or reworked champions.

15 Comments

Jbels4/4/2018, 6:29:48 PM17 votes

League is still literally the only game that still allows this. Smite doesn't allow you until next patch, Overwatch doesn't let the new hero participate in ranked until the next season (although it usually comes out right at the end of the season, but is given AMPLE time to be learned)

Riot needs to let go of these antiquated philosophies.

Onotori4/5/2018, 9:51:42 AM4 votes

Leauge is not hard. League's champions are not hard. To pretend you need weeks of practice to play a champ at a competent level is honestly kind of laughable.

I play a couple norms, and wow, I can play well enough to carry -- and it only gets better from there.

Thing is, if your teammate is goinna feed, they're goinna feed no matter who they play. Let's not pretend otherwise.

130x4/5/2018, 10:09:10 AM4 votes

I like it when a guy whos logged 1000 hours on the updated champ in pbe gets to come in and wreck those that arent privileged enough to do the same.

MizzterBlizzard4/4/2018, 7:57:28 PM3 votes

PBE that's all I'm gonna say. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Leetri4/5/2018, 3:35:59 PM1 votes

And in a couple of days people will play the new champion for the first time in ranked anyway. People still first time champions that were released in 2011, so while it might help a little bit it's not gonna fix the issue. The only way to stop people from first-timing a champion in ranked is to force players to have played the champion before they can pick it in ranked.

Karn Bishop4/5/2018, 6:05:59 PM1 votes

Delays the inevitable, so why delay it? heck i think they allow too much just by letting them even be banned.

BigFBear4/6/2018, 7:11:45 AM1 votes

I have a much better idea! You can only play ANY champ in ranked, if you have at least 3 wins on him in normal. Or 5 normal-games in general or something like that.

Dokueki Kenshin4/4/2018, 7:15:17 PM1 votes

The main problem is that Riot ostensibly tries to be reactive to the desire of the community. We’d need to make a community-wide campaign across multiple forms of social media.

Even then, while I don’t play Smite or Overwatch, Overwatch doesn’t have a Hero Ban system iirc. League gives you the option to choose whether you want that character in the game at all. To my understanding, Overwatch doesn’t do that.

Supreme Senpai694/5/2018, 2:49:07 PM1 votes

Yeah people who have no business playing ranked obviously play it anyway. These are the people who will play Irelia and not understand she was reworked at all.

The people who play new champions rely on their opponent being as clueless as they are. They might feed or they might get fed. There's not much competitive integrity in that

Ban em both for a week. Let people get exposure in normals and practice tool and online data/videos.

Rawcarbogrin4/5/2018, 3:20:37 PM1 votes

It's another form of 50% win-rate technique.