Is There an Issue with Jungle?

OhWanderer·7/13/2017, 4:05:19 AM·3 votes·352 views

I have noticed that down here jungler's are usually the ones causing our team to tilt / loose the game. The number of times I have seen a jungler skip up an objective or not take an opportunity that was safe for them to take is surprising. Not only that but they usually end up throwing by just diving for no reason and feeding. I am not great at jungle, but I find it easier to win a game from jungle than any other position.

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LittleOak7/13/2017, 5:31:33 AM2 votes

WELCOME TO EVERYONE'S FAVORITE SHOW, "JUNGLING IN LOW ELO"! I'll be your host, LittleOak. Now, you may be wondering, 'LittleOak, what are your credentials?' Well I will tell you.

  1. I wound up in the jungle position because I could not trust the other junglers in this ELO to understand how to move around the jungle and when to gank a lane.

  2. When I was an ADC main, my support said 'I could do anything I put my heart to,' and I responded with "I want to make my other laners do better." My support believes in me!

  3. There's no better way to climb than by doing it yourself and jungle this season happens to be one of the most important roles in the game like 75% of games.

In all honesty though, satire aside: that really is the issue. Jungle is just a strong play making position this season. You need a jungle champ who ganks early and often, is proactive about neutral objectives, and if it doesn't happen you will lose the game. It sucks, but the flip side of the coin is that I don't know how to make junglers as a whole, less impactful. In a perfect world, 20% of games your top laner would be the champ you play around, 20% mid, 20% ADC, 20% jungle and the last 20% is honestly your team comp being terrible and your support putting in WORK and carrying our fat asses out of a losing situation (shout out to support mains - I wish I was as talented as you). The issue is with 147 champions, X amount of Items, and X amount of variables that occur in game, there's no way to achieve this. I feel your pain. I wish it was different. The only solution I can posit to you currently is find a duo partner with the same goals as you in mind.

As I said previously, my support (duo partner) and I were talking and we both came to the conclusion that "From the role of ADC and Support, we cannot guarantee all lanes get ahead and do well to give us a better chance at winning." So that day in solo/duo queue we switched from a ADC/Support duo to a Jungle/Mid Duo. I play a lot of tanky bruisers with CC (Warwick Skarner Maokai Sejuani TahmKench Galio and learning Kayn ) and he plays high burst damage mages (Lux Orianna Annie Ziggs Xerath Karma . We play the entire first 10 minutes the same, if I'm on Warwick, he knows I'm not coming in for a gank until level 6 because if I path right and don't get invaded, I can sneak first dragon (record is 3:32, but they're usually all before 4 minutes). If I'm playing any other champion I listed, I swing mid level 3, try to get a kill, usually we do, we back, level 5 we do it again, then immediately roam Top or Bot depending where there's pressure and secure a kill there. We usually get first tower off that, and that leaves me, a Tank/Bruiser with my Jungle item, and pretty much my next full item, our midlaner is now 3 or 4/0/2 depending on roams with 2 full items and components working towards 3, and we have pressure all around the map. The enemy carries run away from us as we walk into their lane and we just take turrets. I have my eyes on timers at all times. I usually get rift and dragons. There are a lot of games where we get 5 dragons in the game and the enemy team has none.

It all depends on your playstyle. First, find the champions you like to play. Like i hate jungle, but I love jungle champions so needless to say, I'm kinda stuck here even though I'm not the biggest fan of playing it. Then find someone who works well with you and go from there. Play with each other daily. Develop strategies. Find out what situations they like going in on and which situations they shy away from. Maybe you find a Tristana one-trick that isn't afraid of anyone, I would say pick up Maokai, and use his CC/vision control to light up the map and allow that Trist to know where enemy champs are and run and kill them. Maybe it's a strong splitpush Yorick, that just needs a few kills to get steamrolling with Trinity force, try picking up a Lee so you can keep the enemy top laner nearby Yorick for his empowered auto and get him going. It all depends on your play. Sorry for the wall of text, but hope my opinion helps console kinda. Add me in game if you want.

PePsiLemoNN7/13/2017, 10:13:18 AM1 votes

Since the introduction of ''catch-up xp'' or w/e it's called junglers can't get behind and remain there.