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Kindred nerfed 6.9-6.11 too much?

magic magicarps·5/22/2016, 4:16:17 AM·9 votes·5,538 views

Hi, I'm magic magikarps and I fell in love with kindred about six months ago. she was the second champion I bought and as of writing this I have about 50000 champion points. for the sake of the article (or whatever else you want to call this) I will be to referring to kindred as she. I find her nerfs in 6.9 . be a little more than enough. you did well to compensate for her clears but there was no compensation for her damage against champions early late or mid. I've also heard wind of another nerf coming in 6.11 where you will also be nerfing her mid to late game with lower base damage on her q. Kindred relies heavily on snowballing. I cannot describe how awful she is when behind. her scalings are relatively crap. If I remember correctly she has a total of 80% ad scaling on all 3 of her abilities combined.her playstyle revolves around weaving autos in between her q. this is why the warrior was so strong she could almost artificially increase her attack speed making her very potent with the warrior early on. I do agree that these nerfs needed t be but nut to this degree. Its painful to watch my favorite champoin be nerfed into a state of irrelevance kindred is like other squishy junglers if you can lock her down with cc shes done. even a heavy slow is enough to shut her down as of she has no good escape. I know she has her q but it's really not that much. mobile champions destroy her for this reason if you can get close to her she's at your mercy. also the new cool downs on her q takes away some of her early kiting potential. look I agree that her early game could have been atrocious but I don't think she deserves to be gutted out of existence.

Im sorry that its really wordy but I just don't want to see kindred become the next galio. I feel like they are slowly olafing her.

13 Comments

Pnakotic5/31/2016, 10:49:14 AM2 votes

Yes the nerf is to harsh. It's cute all the phase game (early /mid ...)

If you cut to much in early/mid game, you can't go in the late, cause it's hard to snowball/ take advantage in early.

Kindred deserve some nerf, but not that much.

If you check the game lenght, you can see Kindred not that good in late game.

gut the early game in 6.9 and another nerf early / mid game.

Now how can you counter jungler in this state ?? You need to go in EARLY/MID game to counter wolf / (chicken) mob's and NOW (6.11) you need to take red/ blue how you do this if you don't have the damage for ?? (and wait 5min for one mark when you can't counter the red/blue) Now answer me, how you play them ???

Seriously, if you nerf Kindred like this, make some compensation ( like mark lenght (Lamb) faster (5s from 8s)lock / reset(60s)) If you want to be more mark dependent.

ps; sorry for my english, not my native language

Defended5/22/2016, 5:16:57 AM2 votes

She needs atleast 14 more nerfs before shes considered ''gutted''... dw

lightingmaster5/31/2016, 10:24:06 AM2 votes

With the current nerf coming in 6.11 , it will not only make it harder to master this character but will also start to make this character useless. Also , how often have you seen a kindred? Do you really think nerfs should be applied to an already difficult character?

Also if you fight against any kindred. She is still fragile and dies pretty quickly. Team fights are a no go for any kindred. 1v1 ... 75% you will win as kindred. But if i were riot (i know 1 person isn't an entire company) I should first look in stupid characters like Fizz or Teemo.

Also the damage nerfs are a little too much . Knowing the enemy will build on amour (if they're smart enough atleast...)

The nerfs really go against her lore btw.

Here are the changes btw:

Mark of the Kindred (Passive): Now increases Q's damage by 5 per stack. Jungle marks now include Dragon, Blue, and Red Camps. ( its good they did this)

Dance of Arrows (Q): Damage decreased to 55/75/95/115/135 from 60/90/120/150/180 (they nerfed the dmg by 45 at lvl 18.... )

Mounting Dread (E): Damage decreased to 40/75/110/145/180 from 60/90/120/150/180 Slow decreased to 50% from 70% (I almost never even seen a slow.... and she is my new main) and atleast the dmg is the same at lvl 18

God of Seas6/7/2016, 9:05:13 AM1 votes

Here is a viseo of the nerfed kindred to get you convinced that he is still OP af.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510wblPIRKQ

BloodyTompon6/7/2016, 10:44:28 AM1 votes

No. She's still very strong with a very high win-rate and play rate.

Searno5/22/2016, 4:27:59 AM1 votes

6.9 buffed her with the new jungle item... and she's still an extremely strong and aggressive jungler so idk what you're talking about?

Also galio is strong shh.

DasCabbageMan7/15/2016, 6:33:58 AM1 votes

i have mained kindred since my first couple of days playing league, after i bought her in riot points because i thought she was beautiful. I used to be able to 20/5/something if i snowballed correctly, but now, id be lucky to get 9/5/7. I got this today and it was an s rank. meanwhile, you have xin zhou, rengar, and kha'zix running around still going 20/2/something. 9/5/7 and an s? hell you would be lucky to get a c+ with that score on udyr! or on maybe literally everyone else in the game. in that 9/5/7 game, i ganked twice. the rest of the time was spent farming because if i didn't snowball, i would be as useful as a potato. That's just plain sad.

The mark of the kindred shows up on everyone's mini map, so when kindred goes for the stack, its extremely east for an enemy jg like rengar to come in and eat her as shes distracted. If the enemy jg stays on top of the stacks, kindred cant do ANYTHING in mid/late game, and basically turns into a potato.

The main reason she has such a good dueling rate is because of her ult, if she pops it, she doesn't lose health, but shes still plinking away at yours, and then just presses "Q" at the end and murders the fuck out of you. However, what people don't understand, is that if you flash out of a kindred ult, and wait for it to end before re-engaging, shes not able to plink you down, and you can eat her like the potato she has become. Ekko is especially good at this, because he just gains 425245766552656253668784374768 movement speed and dashes out of the ult, before coming back and ripping your face off.

i think that the kindred nerfs went too far, and should be buffed again. the reason i say this, is unless your team can handle their lanes, you cant do anything in mid/late game, because you need to farm the entire time to get stacks and level, unless you're a trigger happy kindred that just-so-happens to stumble upon low-heath enemies all the time. not to mention, her ganking faze, is not the best, because her passive literally TELLS you shes coming for you... 8 SECONDS BEFORE.

I'm a sad kindred main, and i hope that they realize that they have gone too far.

lightingmaster5/31/2016, 7:05:34 PM1 votes

Besides. 1 slow , 1 stun , 1 ability stop or miss click and it rip kindred in team fights.

God of Seas6/2/2016, 2:50:17 PM1 votes

Thank god i didn't buy the new skin. I was really close to doing it yesterday but its not worth buying skins on a dead champion. i have 180k on kindred btw. thanks rito.