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Azrael005·2/25/2015, 4:57:54 PM·2 votes·606 views

TLDR: His event horizon slows down the game too much. It was too much of a consistent counter engage unlike janna ult which at least took about a minute to cooldown and by then nonultimate engages are back up.

Notice how a lot of Gameplay and Balance are talking about Veigar and the beating he took in this last patch. Not one day and it's already there and it's been a consistent concern but I haven't seen a single rioter post about the matter beyond Piss off the changes are locked in. We'll tweak it later if we have to. The game has become mobility, mobility, mobility,

Aatrox Ahri Akali Azir Braum Caitlyn Corki Diana Elise Ezreal Fiora Fizz Gnar Gragas Graves Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce Kalista Kassadin Katarina Khazix Leblanc LeeSin Leona LissandraLeblanc Lucian Maokai MasterYi Nautilus Nidalee Nocturne Pantheon Poppy RekSai Renekton Rengar Riven Sejuani Shaco Shen Shyvana Talon Thresh Tristana Tryndamere Vayne Vi Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Zac Zed Ziggs Can you guess what they all have in common. Either a dash, targeted jump, or gap closer. Now let's refine the list.

Lissandra JarvanIV Kassadin Janna Sivir Morgana Annie RekSai Rumble Gnar Ahri Kalista Maokai Irelia Leblanc Corki Vi Graves Thresh LeeSin Zed Xerath Azir

Now these champs are the ones with more than a 25% pick or ban rate in the NA LCS in order. 12/23 all have some form of dash to any desired location. 17 if you count targeted dash/hard engage

The EU LCS looks even more skewed towards high mobility champs in order for their pick ban rate

JarvanIV Kassadin Gnar Graves RekSai Zed Ahri Lissandra Leblanc Azir Annie LeeSin Corki Thresh Leona Cassiopeia Sivir Irelia Janna Janna Nidalee Lulu Xerath Rengar Again all champs with 25% pick ban rates or higher. The top 10 are all dash mobile champs with 50% or higher pick rates. For the rest all but xerath ad annie have some kind of mobility option or dash engage. Ignoring hard engage thats 17/23 with some kind of movement steroid.

Now then lets look at challenger picks and bans

Top 10 bans Jarvan(with a whopping 74% ban rate in north america) Vi Ahri Katarina Nidalee Lissandra Kalista Leblanc Morgana Zed

Top 10 Picks Graves Jinx Thresh Leona Lee Sin Morgana Blitzcrank Caitlyn Annie Janna. A bit more balanced but when added to the ban list it's still ridiculously skewed towards mobility.

So back to Veigar. It was a slap in the face to call him buffed and compensated for dfg loss. This is a blatant lie. Lets call it what it is. He was counter to the high flash mobility game play that riot is trying to craft. As a support he's irritating to the game plan because he can completely with consistency shut down the high speed chase and beat down gameplay.

2 Comments

Scorpionex2/25/2015, 5:10:56 PM1 votes

I would be fine with the e change if they took away the cast time and gave it about 100 more range there i fixed veigar

Azrael0052/25/2015, 5:37:50 PM1 votes

E is a joke. Im running timers with a friend walking out with boots 1 from center is entirely possible on most champs let alone anyone with a dash