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Reminder: Unlock all champions for ARAM

ModCaptainMårvelous·9/8/2019, 8:37:31 AM·74 votes·17,461 views

In the four games I've played tonight, every single one has had a Jayce on them.

At least one team has been extremely stacked with long-range characters who you cannot get close too.

Games are decided far too early not because of community memes like damage, durability or otherwise but by overwhelming favor in champion select.

#No, bans will not fix this. This will just have ARAM accounts banning champs that counter them. There are also a lot more champs than 10 bans that have overwhelming poke (>50 for sure)

I've argued for this for years since ARAM was a queue. Every champion needs to be unlocked for this mode to make it actually fair. If you don't like it, too bad. It's what you signed up for. If you don't know how to play that champ? Too bad, it's what you signed up for. Expand your pool or reroll. I just want to see actual variety in what I get, not pray there are more aram accounts on my team than the enemy's.

63 Comments

TwitchInMyPants9/8/2019, 8:38:05 PM8 votes

Bans and having all champions aren't mutually exclusive, both would improve ARAM.

ModRowanstar9/8/2019, 8:24:36 PM6 votes

No! Sorry but the only champs i dont own have awful fesigns or are unfun. I dont fancy getting stuck with one of them.

Bjørnetjenesten9/9/2019, 11:49:45 AM5 votes

Riot would never allow their precious 975+ rp champs to be freely available for the masses..

Linna Excel9/8/2019, 4:01:14 PM5 votes

I think that would destroy aram. At the end of the day people want to play the champs they like. Unlocking everything means you won't be able to do that and when you do get a champ you like, someone is going to dodge.

Zlera9/8/2019, 8:56:09 AM4 votes

I honestly couldnt agree more! Those aram accounts quite frankly ruin the game mode. Whats the fun in playing Varus 6 times in a row on Aram? Up until now I actually thought aram was all random, but surprisingly it isnt, so yeah, im all for this! Every champion for aram.

Madjack019/8/2019, 9:10:43 AM4 votes

No.

Actually facing people with limited champ pools and having unfair comps is what you signed up for. If you don't like it, too bad.

People will never invest in the entire champion pool nor should they be forced too because you want to try to enforce fairness in a mode that is intrinsically unfair. I don't like to play more than 2/3s of the roster (and that includes nonsense like Jayce, Xerath or Ziggs). Even with a limited champ pool I have trouble getting a champ I enjoy. Might as well kiss goodbye to the mode if have to play all the shit I purposely avoided in all other modes by not buying them.

redLizardrock9/8/2019, 8:41:10 AM3 votes

Why do you play aram if you don't like it? I mostly play summoner's rift by the way.

Swooshter9/8/2019, 8:28:55 PM3 votes

Years back we had this same discussion. My thoughts on it have not changed. Instead of giving access to all champions, just pool the champions that the 5 players on the team have as available to pull. This would have the added benefit of being able to swap with any other team player. Right now, they have to have both champs to switch.

PurpleKingCrazy9/8/2019, 11:12:10 PM2 votes

I'm not gonna be the one sitting there and taking hits from veigar cages all day, getting ulted by jinx as she rummages through turrets and destroys the nexus whilst having Jhin and Lux shooting projectiles that I have to dodge plus an unforgiving tank that stands in the way whilst having to hit that certain aggro champ in much of line of having my team not fighting back against it. Of course it's bullshit and even I have to deal with it, and I hate that fact that people dodge just for some bot to have Malphite ults ready and then win the game single-handedly because they're ARAM only accounts.

I love ARAM but yea this definitely needs a change (or BANS for sure, even though I entire disagree on Riot's decision to not have bans on ARAM altogether.)

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mack91129/8/2019, 7:28:34 PM2 votes

Nobody wants to first time a champion in that way.

Also who are these people who have aram only accounts ? In my 7 years of playing this game never met one.

preternatural9/8/2019, 8:26:47 PM2 votes

you know, this is a good idea, it would probably stop the aram accounts that only own aram s-tier champions.

G0blinSlay3r9/8/2019, 8:43:15 PM2 votes

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In the four games I've played tonight, every single one has had a Jayce on them.

At least one team has been extremely stacked with long-range characters who you cannot get close too.

Games are decided far too early not because of community memes like damage, durability or otherwise but by overwhelming favor in champion select.

#No, bans will not fix this. This will just have ARAM accounts banning champs that counter them. There are also a lot more champs than 10 bans that have overwhelming poke (>50 for sure)

I've argued for this for years since ARAM was a queue. Every champion needs to be unlocked for this mode to make it actually fair. If you don't like it, too bad. It's what you signed up for. If you don't know how to play that champ? Too bad, it's what you signed up for. Expand your pool or reroll. I just want to see actual variety in what I get, not pray there are more aram accounts on my team than the enemy's.

Well TBH i'm tired of having a literal GOD just press 1 button while i die 50 times because he is so pathetic riot had to give him the GODS of aram but he can't end a fucking match.

I need to be kept hostage by riot balance bots and riot ripping away any stats i have. i might as well have a iron account in a challenger match. But if i get anything good i have to get fucking trolled and rigged.

And now riot changes it slightly and within a day i know wth they did. And it's the same shit different packaging. ...

Sucks ass

personally.. i think riot are a bunch of flying anus moneys that only care about the bottom line. while spounting neutrality but doing the opposite. Worse than any satanists plan.

PaffWasTaken9/9/2019, 12:55:25 AM2 votes

No, bans will not fix this. This will just have ARAM accounts banning champs that counter them. There are also a lot more champs than 10 bans that have overwhelming poke (>50 for sure)

Except that ARAM accounts barely have over 10 overpowered champions, so the proportion of their roster that you negate with Bans highens more the chances of them having a more balanced champion rather than giving all the champions to everyone, while they can trade, reroll twice and use the reroll pool.

Also, ARAM bans are much more versatile in the way they can enhance the game experience: not everyone hate the same champions. You mentionned Jayce, but ever since him getting nerfed, he is much much less of a threat than before. The thing is, if you still absolutely hate him, you can ban him, or you can ban a much more unbalanced champion, or you can ban another champ that you ahte to play agaisnt but who isn't necessarily over the top broken.

Unlocking every champs for ARAM will only fix the ARAM account problems, but will keep the gamemode as the coin flip it became because the overpowered champions are still availlable for everyone and (like I mentionned) there's just way too many ways to get to them even if you initially got a balanced champion. ARAM bans, however, gives you a little bit of control over how fucked you are if the gamble you take fails, while making the game a bit more fun.

Also, there's no such things as "banning champs who counter them" in ARAM bans, this isn't Summoner's Rift, fam. You don't even know WHAT you'll get after the bans, even as an ARAM account, you don't even know WHAT counters them (counters in ARAM are waaay different) and, most of all, the way you get "countered" in ARAM is almost in every cases related to the whole enemy team's composition, it isn't related to a single inidividual (who has high chances to not even make it into the game) that you might ban. So yeah, ARAM bans giving an advantage to ARAM accounts with this argument? Bullsh*t.

Unstoppable Monk9/9/2019, 11:51:43 AM2 votes

I've played Ziggs to a perfect game in ARAM without having to buy while still carrying the team.

I can only imagine a team of 5 ARAM-"pro" accounts that actually buy items being even worse.

Nyxian Drake9/10/2019, 5:06:39 AM1 votes

So, I play both League and a game called Smite(a 3d, over the shoulder moba for those who don't know), and Smite has an ARAM mode as well. I wanna say 3 years ago they implemented the full unlock for that mode. Not having it in league blows my mind, it literally deleted the aram only accounts that had only one champ. IMO ARAM modes are for playing champs to learn/better their mechanics outside of the main mode. It allows people to decide whether they like a champ without needing to purchase it. Maybe thats why Riot doesnt want to implement it.

Astrovert9/10/2019, 6:41:42 AM1 votes

So you want to take the fun out of Aram? Hey why not have them play a whole different game altogether?

Some people play Aram to compete, some people play for fun, nobody is playing for rewards. All playstyles can fit in the same category. The larger problem you see is people with vastly different MMRs being smushed into a single group.

Astrovert9/10/2019, 6:46:36 AM1 votes

If people own more accounts, Riot can potentially make more money. How exactly does them losing money, when they are a business, in any way a good decision? Do you really need a better reason than that?

SirTauntsALot9/10/2019, 9:26:11 AM1 votes

Don't unlock all champs. instead change aram. Split it in to 4 different modes. You can chose.

ARAMM (All Random MID MAGES) : All mages unlocked for everyone.
ARAMT (All Random MID Tanks): All fighters unlocked for everyone
ARAMR (All Random MID Ranged); All ranged unlocked for everyone
ARAMF (All Random MID Fighters): All fighters unlocked for everyone

The Kombinator9/10/2019, 9:38:29 AM1 votes

Since TFT ranked is a thing i asked for something similar. Ranked ARAM with all champs unlocked. Mostly so that you can't make "aram" account with only your bests unlocked. I mean you can, but pointless since all champ would be available.

I don't think, that it would be more luck based, than TFT.

DeathBurst9/10/2019, 12:45:58 PM1 votes

What do you say to Riot telling us ARAM-only accounts don't exist in noticeable proportion?