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Auto Fill From a Support Main Point of View

Ego Killer·2/11/2017, 1:06:20 PM·55 votes·4,918 views

I'm a low plat support main, I've mained the role since I started playing ranked back in season 4 and I am writing this to share my experience with auto fill in solo q games.

Of course you're probably saying, "Well you play support, you have nothing to worry about!", and this is widely true if you consider that I am almost guaranteed to get my role in the world of primary/secondary role choices. However, there is a deeper darker evil that faces a lot of support mains nowadays...

It goes by the name of the autofilled ADC. Yes, that's right, the autofilled ADC. With the meta being like it is, turning a lot of people off people off the ADC role, I have seen an increasingly large number of autofilled ADCs in my games. In my opinion, auto filling support is fine because it's a relatively simple role that you don't really have to have a lot of mechanical skill or knowledge of positioning, csing, build order, etc. to play at an average level. ADC on the other hand is a MUCH more demanding role, and autofilling people to that position is almost a guaranteed loss.

I almost never see anyone get autofilled into any other role on my team other than ADC and when you get an autofilled ADC that doesn't really understand the role, or most of the time doesn't even play botlane at all, then it makes supporting nearly impossible.

So if you ever thought that auto fill only hurt non support players, I can tell you it's not the case.

68 Comments

DarkRitual2/11/2017, 5:17:41 PM22 votes

I would really like to know when someone on my team gets autofilled, without having to ask every queue. If I see an autofilled ADC, I would know not to pick a very dependant support like Janna or Leona. I know I need to play someone that can carry the lane and roam if need be, such as Zyra or Morgana.

SoundChaosDebug2/11/2017, 1:23:18 PM10 votes

In my shitty elo/MMR I almost never see supports used anymore, it's either double marksman or like multiple mages

Shuyin1782/11/2017, 5:22:49 PM7 votes

In my opinion, auto filling support is fine because it's a relatively simple role that you don't really have to have a lot of mechanical skill or knowledge of positioning, csing, build order, etc. to play at an average level.

How are in Plat with this mindset? Mechanical skill and CS aside, everything else there is important. Knowledge of positioning so you don't get caught-out, know how to move around the lane opponents, and putting yourself into a position to setup plays for your ADC/Jungler to take control of the lane. Build order is important because it determines how viable you by the time lane phase ends. If you're a mage support you need the proper damage items available to supports to assist your team without making it a 4v5, as a tank support you need enough bulk to be a wall for your carries or jump into the enemy team to catch people for kills (such as Leona catching people with EQ). One of the key parts of a support player in the etc zone is awareness, you're the ADC's eyes. You keep track of the lane opponents to know if someone is hiding in a bush in the off-chance your ADC didn't see them go into it, you ward the nearby area to look for incoming threats, you watch the map to warn your ADC of these threats so they can focus on their positioning in lane and last-hitting for farm like they should be.

Supports are vastly underrated because of what all we do that nobody else sees except possibly the ADC, but even then they don't see everything either.

five oh tree 2/11/2017, 5:12:04 PM6 votes

I think the most horrendous thing that happens is when someone gets autofilled to jungle. If the autofilled player doesn't play jungle very much, it's pretty much a guaranteed loss. You have to sit there and watch them get outjungled the entire game by the enemy jg main. It's not even their fault, but the jungle role is different than the other roles, and it's pretty obvious if they don't play it a lot.

a special one2/11/2017, 11:42:20 PM5 votes

finally someone gets it that ADC is harder than support

V The Support V2/11/2017, 7:35:01 PM5 votes

Play Bard and carry his ass.

sobi9992/11/2017, 5:55:18 PM4 votes

A really good post. Being a soraka main, i always was dependent on how good my adc performed. Then slowly and slowly it reached to the point that it was impossible to enjoy the game so i mained agressive supp like velk/lux at bot lane. ironically they provide more help to the bad adc's than the traditional supp few exceptions are blitz/thresh which i don't personally like playing.

SkZ DoPe2/12/2017, 12:24:51 AM3 votes

as ADC main and second role supp main i can say, it's true a autofilled ADC is probably the worst you can have, but it's also unfortunate to have a support who you can't trust because he baits you or just isn't used to the way Botlane is, like level disadvantage to other lanes

Eggplantosphere2/11/2017, 11:40:15 PM2 votes

Despite the name, I actually do main Raka/Janna. Ive gotten filled a couple times when I go supp/fill and its scary, but usually I can ask for support.

MisterShameless2/11/2017, 7:11:33 PM2 votes

Maybe this is why Mage Supports are more popular now. They end up doing the work of what the ADC needs to be doing when in lane and why adcs can feel weak in the current meta.

Elikain2/12/2017, 8:41:16 PM2 votes

There's no such thing as not fully understanding how to play a Marksman. All other lanes have their own minions to kill, respectively trade with enemy champions, have to mind the ganks and ward appropriately. Except for the jungle mains.

All of that mechanical skill is present in a bot lane as well but what may throw people off is just how much the enemy support can "win" the lane for his marksman, depending on which support we're talking about. Most likely, it's kill lanes that you should watch out for because if they get the advantage, you're in a world of hurt from that point on and you're going to get bullied a lot. You need to play defensively and wait for a gank, not mindlessly starting fights.

Other than that, babysitting supports like Janna, Soraka and Karma are perfect for the bot lane that have an autofilled, unskilled marksman. They can negate a lot of their mistakes so avoid damage supports like Zyra and Morgana.

Ceapi2/12/2017, 1:42:39 PM2 votes

On the other hand I get ADC almost every game now and get 4-5 manned whenever I try to win my lane.Gotta love having so much impact.

BladeSingularity2/12/2017, 2:10:50 AM1 votes

One time I was playing with three friends, and we originally got a jungle as our fifth. Then there were two dodgers. The first time around we got the same jg, and the second time ... a brand new, autofilled ADC. Who, to add insult to injury, went AFK for the first 10 minutes of the game, while the guy who we'd originally had as jungle was the enemy team's autofilled ADC - AND HE ACTUALLY TRIED TO ADC. And he did pretty well for an autofilled ADC, especially compared to our ADC.

Oh, and then our top lane gave up because she was facing a Warwick top who kept winning 1v1s, and she went AFK in the crucial last five minutes of the game. But that's a different story...

LordSirChipmunk2/12/2017, 2:58:23 AM1 votes

I was expecting a bland, unoriginal upvote-farming post. Was pleasantly suprised.

option paralysis2/11/2017, 2:30:40 PM1 votes

That's what I was saying too, it's not fun when I have a jungle one trick auto filled adc and he's going against an adc main, bot will lose for sure.

[{quoted}](name=Ego Killer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uaO90tYd,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-11T13:06:20.093+0000) auto filling support is fine because it's a relatively simple role that you don't really have to have a lot of mechanical skill or knowledge of positioning, csing, build order, etc.

You can't say that support is an easy role tho. Knowledge of positioning isn't important ? Bruh I got from p3 to d2 with Soraka only and my main thing I gotta focus each game is where I am in lane and teamfights or I blow up immediatly.

The Yetii Rider2/12/2017, 1:52:15 PM1 votes

Here's hoping Riot just lets ADC die out. Would be a much better game if everyone on the team was focused on mid-game power spikes and we didn't have to devote 20% of the team to babysitting some low-utility, no-skill farm bot who builds no tankiness and dies instantly until 4 items.

BlackHairedGirl2/12/2017, 8:07:53 PM1 votes

Defiantly. But if you ever see that your ADC was auto filled, pick someone like Morgana, Zyra, Annie, or Lux. You can fill in the shoddy damage your ADC does.

siilentdeath2/12/2017, 1:55:18 AM1 votes

from my personal xp its teams that get the autofilled support in solo/duo que get wrecked. when your support locks in shit like KogMaw or Malzahar . you know your boned even worse. odds are they are building straight carry and not support. so u get no wards, lose cs and have kills taken from you if you are the adc. then the other side of things when the autofilled support picks a real support then has 0 clue how to ward. had a support over the last 3 nights that it took 6 minutes to place his 1st ward down. adc mains are probably fleeing from the role over getting bad players like that. to even reinforce my point i lolking my supports before game starts to know how i need to play. i get supports that main support that have games of 20+ minutes with ward totals of 5,6,8,4,3,9. bot lane is a shit show at this point. to make it worse the supports that dont ward want the adc to be aggressive with no vision out.