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Don't play Jhin in ranked unless you are really good with him please

Shırø·1/19/2018, 5:31:59 PM·32 votes·8,990 views

I've seen a lot of Jhin players who refuses to focus the enemy's carry in a team fight. Firing a fourth shot at a full health maokai instead of the enemy adc his support (leona) managed to pin down for eternity. Jhin players who have auto attack on so they randomly fire fourth shots at creeps in range to get hammered with pokes while reloading... Let's not even talk about all the times we saw a Jhin auto his precious auto-attack on a creep in fights. Jhin players who buy the three (nerfed) lethality items when he didn't even snowball or win his lane. Only to hit the mid-late game mark and do no damage to tanks who stacked up on armor. Jhin players who think they can kite but end up canceling all their autos. Jhin players who ults all 4 shots at the enemy front line in a team fight, healing them in the process. Mean while the enemy adc is actively autoing and mowing down your front line.

It's time to stop. Unlike other adcs, he's not a complete brain dead right clicking champion. Target selection, and focusing on executing enemy carrys is crucial. I'm so tired of Jhins who let free kills pass by because they forget to throw in a Q before the fourth shot. Especially with easy-to-play&carry adcs like MF, vayne, and tris being meta at the moment, a meh-jhin is so much worse than an meh-vayne. He is harder to play than you think. Also stop taking press the attack or bs runes like lethal tempo ON JHIN. Jhin isn't your go-to adc, freelo adc, or "oh ur taking <> as support? might be good with jhin" adc. Just stop.

58 Comments

NekoniClaws1/19/2018, 7:13:58 PM18 votes

Wow that sounds more like someone who's never PLAYED Jhin before. Or ADC.

Actually a lot of those just apply to adcs. Oh, they have 3 tanks? Better rush a hurricane! Because I saw it was highest winrate and I refuse to adapt to the game.

Focusing wrong targets - autoing minions by accident -- heck, watching your Leona towerdive and deciding to auto the tower 4 more times so she dies. Any ADC can do that. Not just Jhin.

But the middle and both ends of it is Jhin's winrate is BAD right now. He's bad at taking down tanks, he's bad at handling assassins, he's bad at bursting anything that isn't AAQAA from dead. This is not his meta.

Weasel Kensei1/19/2018, 8:16:19 PM10 votes

Jhin...

??

Whats this dont play Jhin in ranked unless you are really good with him shit!?!?

DONT FUCKING PLAY ANYTHING YOURE NOT GOOD WITH IN RANKED!

The number of dumb as fuck people I see playing a champ for the second or third time in my placements is unreal. Zoe players... I had a match the other day where I did more damage with Bard (NOT BUILDING AP) while the Zoe built full AP (like you would expect) and she did less damage than me... by like 3k, she did around 19k vs my 22k.

Yasuo... players... either a Diamond 1 smurf, or Bronze 4 trash-monster every ranked game.

Hop on the OP bus Vayne players tumbling into skill shots clown shit blowout!!!

The point is, if youre going to play ranked, dont be shit with the thing youre taking into ranked. Play it a little, get the feel, have more than one build youve played... just simply "be ready" for ranked.

Jhin... isnt some special case. Shit players shitting the bed with Jhin in ranked is something they will happily do on other champs they dont know how to play well cause they dont give a fuck about being trash and hurting their team.

(deep breath).... Dont play ANYTHING you ARE NOT good with in ranked people please...

qwerty123x1/19/2018, 5:35:15 PM7 votes

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Especially with easy-to-play&carry adcs like MF, vayne, and tris being meta at the moment

Where is MF in the meta? No where exactly.

RookPusher1/19/2018, 7:15:00 PM6 votes

Could you please provide a list of champs that are acceptable to play in ranked with no experience? Or did you mean literally everything else was fine?

P0IS0N IVY1/19/2018, 11:07:59 PM4 votes

Or like, just don't play anyone in ranked unless you're good with them. Doesn't matter which champ.

Spank the Fox1/19/2018, 10:28:47 PM3 votes

Except Jhin IS braindead, more so than other ADCs.

Across 3 accounts, I’ve maintained 75%+ WR over 20+ games with Jhin each acc, he’s too easy.

kargish1/19/2018, 7:01:11 PM3 votes

What I like about Jhin though is that he seems to have a significantly higher skill ceiling than most other ADCs out there. I'm also in love with his theme and character, so that may be a factor.

woodvsmurph1/19/2018, 10:55:11 PM2 votes

When to play jhin: You know how to play him.

The enemy team lacks any true tanks and no more than 1 tanky bruiser.

The enemy lacks long-ranged hard engage.

There are no more than 1 possible melee assassin on enemy team who could dive and attempt to delete you.

When these conditions are met, jhin is a great pick because jhin excels at punishing squishy opponents - especially if they can't get to him easily and blow him up fast. When these conditions are not met, cait or jinx offer almost the same range advantage jhin does, do a better job killing tanks, have better tools to deal with assassins (net, trap, chompers, etc.), and are plain and simple better picks. Otherwise, the assassin(s) get on jhin and he has no mobility to escape them, no RELIABLE cc to disengage, slow dps compared to the assassin(s) (they'll burst him faster). He deals no damage with his ult to open a fight - must save it for the end of fight to pick off low hp fleeing squishies. His auto's on a tank or vs 2 tanky bruisers of the enemy frontline deal minimal damage compared to the dps the enemy adc will deal with similar gold spent on items - leaving his frontline to die faster and him unable to ignore the enemy frontline to kill the backline because again, the frontline will cc him and their carries will pop him faster than he can pop them. He can't ult because the other team's frontline will block it and take next-to-no damage. Thus jhin is a horrible pick into an enemy team with several champs that can dive and delete him and also horrible if the enemy team has 2+ tanks/tanky bruisers. Sure, if you snowball you can win, but you are making the game unnecessarily more difficult for yourself and your team.

Troll for Trump1/19/2018, 6:27:50 PM2 votes

Jhin's really only good if he's ahead. If he's behind he just gets deleted by the enemy team.

Not only do you need a lot of setup and organization to make Jhin functional, but he also should be ahead, and he's weak in the current meta .

JohnnyNeverSins1/19/2018, 11:10:50 PM2 votes

All i want is my fucking death fire touch back.

Bârd1/20/2018, 12:47:35 AM2 votes

Even if you're good at him, don't pick Jhin without either a late pick or specific allies.

If the enemy doesn't pick a champ alongside Jhin to pick up the slack against tanks, you essentially win by default with some picks.

For example, Malphite loves it when you pick Jhin.

If you pick Jhin and he doesn't get specifically countered by a hard-carry top/jungle pick, it's pretty much game.

He'll get item 3068 item 3047 and laugh at Jhin.

If you don't have a hard carry in top or jungle, neither of them will be able to deal damage. I'm not talking "Lethality LeeSin Rengar JarvanIV OMG THE BURST" I'm talking MasterYi Fiora Trundle , champions with high amounts of persistent damage that cuts through Malphite's armor.

If you have an assassin or burst mage mid, he'll be useless against Malphite 's high HP pool. Most skirmisher mids will also be dogshit, but Yasuo can deal with Malph with his armor pen.

If you have a battlemage or artillery mid, they'll be useful in the early game and the extreme late game. Before Malphite has MR, they can melt him. Once they're full build with all the AP and pen they could ever desire, Malph will melt. At every point between completing item 3194 and your Malzahar hitting full build they won't be able to kill him either.

Maybe Velkoz can contribute with his true damage, or Veigar whose burst might actually be enough to kill Mallphite, but

VeganScout1/19/2018, 7:13:01 PM2 votes

Bad adcs lose games games,but i get your point about a bad vayne being more useful.

Varus is imo best pick for trash adcs, that cant kite and such.

Glasss of Water1/20/2018, 4:24:54 AM2 votes

Wouldn’t say Vayne is braindead but u do u dog

Ahri Baka1/20/2018, 7:02:21 PM1 votes

Adc's mission is to attack anything in range with them , and they are the most useful against Tanks , so they have to attack tanks , especially that he was against Mao , he can cc him and you will see a Q from Lux following with ult to kill Jhin he can focus other players in some situations , but Jhin is bad in solo queue right now and you need a whole competitive team to play him

JabaTheHat1/19/2018, 10:05:19 PM1 votes

Unlike other adcs, he's not a complete brain dead right clicking champion.

You're wrong on this one particular point. Jihn is more similar to a mid lane mage than an ADC. He is actually easier to play than the traditional ADC because his effective range is so long.

Most auto attack based ADCs are harder than Jihn for two major reason 1) Positioning is harder because you have to be in closer range than Jihn to do anything at all(need more awareness of dangers around you). And 2) Knowing to how stutter step/orb walk quickly(higher APM needed).

The other ADCs are more powerful than Jihn right now, their skill floors might be lower as of this moment but their skill ceilings are still higher than Jihn's. When balance changes are made Jihn can easily become one of the easiest ADCs to play. The only ADC that I think is always easier than him would be MF.

Cowseed1/20/2018, 1:08:05 AM1 votes

YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!

AwesomeGuyDj1/20/2018, 5:37:02 AM1 votes

Wait people actually play with auto attack on? I turned that shit off as soon as possible and actually forgot it existed until now.

KidCodi1/20/2018, 5:53:33 AM1 votes

I've been playing Jhin a decent bit at the start of this season. I don't have many games but I have an 83% winrate. I feel like he's actually very strong people just don't know how to use him. He has great pick potential with W and R. And can help prevent ganks with them as well as E. Also his Q W E for decent clear. Then his fourth shot always hits like a truck and compared with FleetFootwork I think it works well. Usually teamfights nobody pays attention to me unless I'm incredibly fed. So I just mow them all down if my team can stall out the teamfight and CC.

Athenes Lulu1/20/2018, 7:40:07 AM1 votes

Or just do everyone a favor and don't play Jhin at all, unless you are in low elo and know what the hell you're doing because anything works down there.

In a meta where he can't outpoke relic shield abusers who also outscales him sooner and kills tanks better, he has no place right now.

Kuzja11/20/2018, 7:41:36 AM1 votes

Ugh. . . I can't seem to get the hang of his kit. I'm not good at aiming when it comes to sniping.

EssenceOfPoo1/20/2018, 3:50:42 PM1 votes

Thanks for the tips on playing Jhin. I'm horrible at playing him. why Q before the forth shot though? I thought it'd be better to do it after since that's when you reload?