Does smurfing ruin low elo game

TheSevenCrimson·9/29/2019, 9:46:22 PM·34 votes·16,127 views

Sorry if this offends anyone but I just wanna know the community opinion on smurfs in low elo does it ruin the game when one player can create such a difference in the game and not get punished for it. Cause the people at that rank are really trying hard to improve and get out while this person is holding them back in my opinion it seems really unfair and I know that people will laugh at me or ignore this but that's fine I just want to see how other people view this

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TracyzDgDqF9/29/2019, 9:48:46 PM19 votes

I mean yes because most people gold and below only go for kills while the smurf goes for turrets and objectives so they can't win unless they do the same thing. The snowballing off cs and that is enough to ruin low elo games. Even ap master yi can be won in silver elo if you play it 100!

Trixster9/29/2019, 10:52:33 PM13 votes

Well dealing with a smurf is an extremely ufunny experience which really won't help you at all. I'm going to disagree with TracyzDgDqF since that's actually what most smurf don't do.

I mean yes because most people gold and below only go for kills while the smurf goes for turrets and objectives so they can't win unless they do the same thing. The snowballing off cs and that is enough to ruin low elo games. Even ap master yi can be won in silver elo if you play it 100!

The smurfs I meet usually hunt the kills like insane. Now why would that be? Well because they can, they're in lower elo so they can get away with having 20+ kills, do 0 objectives and carry the game. Quite ironically it's usually the enemy team who is forced to do objectives like insane and pray they won't get caught out by someone who is generally better at the game.

As for cs, I can't stress enough how goddamn cancerous is to lane against a smurf. Look I'm silver, my cs is far from perfect but I'm trying my best. Here this guy has 50 more cs then me in 15 mins purely because of the fact he is smurfing. I always love to see people on both teams having around 90 cs and here the enemy Zed sitts at 130+. Like how do you even lane againt that? How am I supposed to get better when the only thing I can do is to spread my cheeks and hope it will be fast?

Crispy0Snake9/29/2019, 10:04:11 PM6 votes

It's accepted because you get as many smurfs on your team as the enemy team if you play a large amount of games

Edit for the 4/9 and 5/9 chance people that might not see my answer to this point:

Given you are not the smurf and there is exactly one smurf in the game, that's absolutely correct

I think you'd have to play an unplayable amount of games to show there's a significant difference, though, because the probability of a smurf filling one of those slots is already low

Say on average one in 5 games that you don't play has exactly one smurf in, that's 1/50 slots, 2% chance of having a smurf in a slot

Chance of a smurf in x of your slots is

4Cx×(0.02)^x×(0.98)^4-x

x=0, p=92.237% x=1, p=7.529% x=2, p=0.230% x=3, p=0.00314% x=4, p=0.000016%

Chance of smurf in y of enemy slots is

5Cy×(0.02)^y×(0.98)^5-y

y=0, p=90.392% y=1, p=9.224% y=2, p=0.376% y=3, p=0.00768% y=4, p=0.0000784% y=5, p=0.00000032%

Say you play 300 games, expect 23 games have one smurf on your team, 28 have one smurf on enemy team

5 games in 300, net, lost to smurfs, is close enough to 0 for me

Zed genius9/29/2019, 10:58:19 PM4 votes

While climbing from bronze 5 to diamond 5 all those years, I never had a problem with smurfs. In diamond though, if a smurf is there, their elo is like masters+, and the skill difference really shows there, although I have won many games versus smurfs and lost as many with them on my team. I wouldn't say it is a big problem, and it is definitely not the reason people don't climb, as some may suggest.

ScrubSTC9/29/2019, 10:18:17 PM4 votes

I dont think it ruins it, I honestly think its needed to make the community better as a hole by having them face more skilled people.

Metal Janna9/30/2019, 4:24:17 PM4 votes

In reply to OP:

Absolutely yes. Not only are they intentionally/foreseeably creating unfair games just by queueing, they're usually huge toxic assholes because of the reasons they're doing the smurfing. Category 1 smurfs: "My main got banned/restricted". Category 2 smurfs: "I'm here to stomp noobs because i'm tilted from my last fair match". Category 3 smurfs: "I'm here to play with my noob friend from RL". Category 4 smurfs: "I'm here to try to try out/practice a different [Role][Itemization][Rune page].

Category 1-3 smurfs have a high likelihood of being toxic. Category 4 are about as toxic as the average player.

5050BS9/30/2019, 3:10:10 PM3 votes

Smurfing 100% RUINS the Rank system.

So say a Challenger player Smurfs into Diamond Rank. They Stomp Diamond players and true Diamond players are now losing LP and dropping in Rank. They get pissed off and so Smurf.

Diamond player Smurfs into Plat Rank. They Stomp Plat players and true Plat players are now losing LP and dropping in Rank. They get pissed off and so Smurf.

Plat player Smurfs into Silver Rank. They Stomp Silver players and true Silver players are now losing LP and dropping in Rank.

So What has happened is that Silver is now really Gold players trying to get back to gold (being shoved out by Plat players) and Plat smurfs.

This goes all the way back up the Ladder shifting the whole rank. The problem is that Silver players that could be low Gold are hard stuck. If they fall into Bronze they are basically Smurfing and can win but Silver is BLOATED with Gold, Plat and true Silver players.

See Riot LOVES this. They want AS MANY PLAYERS AS POSSIBLE to be in Silver.

Why? Because Gold 4 gives you a free skin each season and if you are trying to get that you are still playing the game.

Crescent Dusk9/30/2019, 12:01:08 AM3 votes

How do you propose smurfs be prevented? Not even IP bans would work, considering proxies.

Smurfs are here to stay, get over it.

MHallucinatioN9/30/2019, 10:16:00 PM2 votes

the game still dont have mmr which is equal to zero for competitive games, Instead to balance the game and to make mmr RIOT is busy to make skins rofl