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OP ED: Forced to Quit ADC

PreShot·6/27/2018, 9:33:11 PM·29 votes·9,254 views
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I have played this game since the start of Season 3, I started out playing Support; I came from WoW and was always playing supportive roles, not to mention Season 3 had a toxic community that if stuck in last pick it was "Mid or Feed". So I sucked it up and played support to get better games. I bounced from Support to Mid back to Support then finally Riot released something I posted many times and asked for which was pick your role before queing to allow people like me to play other roles without fear of a troll. I switched to ADC, joined a few teams to get a grasp on team play and how the ADC role works and the responsibilities. I started climbing really well and got to really enjoy the ADC role now more than ever since I knew what supports were suppose to do I felt complete in the bot lane.

Last season was one of my best seasons in ranked with a 61% win rate I was super excited champions I played were very Meta, (Ezreal, Cait, Varus). Then this season happen and after placements I felt good I hit 8 W 2 L during Provisionals, got Gold 4, then I tilted out of control to ruin my MMR and now basically hard stuck Gold 5. Bot lane has been non stopped slammed with updates and meta shifts that have taken the power of the ADC and placed that into the Support role (Ironic right?), now as an ADC you find yourself in situations where 1 Janna is soloing you with W spam and Scortch. This season I just really couldn't get a grasp on anything. Ezreal was REALLY good but then Riot Nerfs him into the ground because Pro play rewards skill and Ezreal does take skill, everything is a skill shot and its very unrewarding when you cant hit a Q. I kept telling myself "8.11 Riot promised to address ADC Role, they are going to fix ADC's and nerf Assassins or even Supports! (NOPE). All the patch did was create more items for Assassins made ADC's useless Early game and made everyone else stronger Early.

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As it stands right now for ADC in the top 10 is 2 ADC's everyone else is an AP Champion. There is a total of 5 ADC's with a + 50% win rate, before 8.11 I think ADC had like 10 or so ADC's with 50+ win rate, I just feel so useless in the bot lane. Sure I can adapt and learn the meta like always, but it feels different this time. This time it feels like its Season 1 and people have no idea what the meta is so you just see really crazy random stuff. I think what you are doing Riot is hurting your game. Maybe I am wrong and I am just a Salty ADC who is just whining and complaining. and you know what maybe you are right.

Please fix ADC, and nerf Supports. I know this goes against what you are trying to do with champions like Pyke but honestly, the big problem bot lane is that my lane is almost decided by who has a better support as oppose to who has the better ADC. Or in todays term, who has the more OP AP Mage. I know laning phase doesn't = game, but when you are bot lane and lose 100% dragon control because you play the normal ADC which is weak bot lane and you play into an oppressive poke champ like Brand/Xerath/Vlad. I think Champion diversity is nice but make more ADC's and diverse us that way, don't destroy ADC and force us to play Mage's bot.

31 Comments

OtterlyLost6/27/2018, 9:44:19 PM16 votes

Prepare to be downvoted. Even though you're absolutely right, the boards will fight and argue with you over this and say that marksmen were completely broken.

I agree ADCs are hot garbage right now. It's even worse if you one trick or two trick a handful of crit adcs, like tristana or cait.

BestPudgeNA6/28/2018, 12:07:09 AM12 votes

Pick rates are a much better indication of what's good. Win rates of sub 1-2% pick rate champs should basically be tossed into the garbage can of not useful stats.

Mucho Autisimo6/27/2018, 11:23:37 PM8 votes

I'm boycotting this game until the balance team cleans up bot lane. Eliminating an entire role and making bot lane mid lane v2 is awful.

D357R0Y3R6/27/2018, 11:29:59 PM7 votes

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Jellyfish Rave6/28/2018, 12:53:48 AM6 votes

Honestly this season has been a crazy mess. Preseason was incredibly short and didn't address nearly enough of the glaring issues that the new runes system had. The assassin compensation buffs after the duskblade nerf was completely unwarranted seeing as duskblade only pushed assassins further into their already-too-high damage creep. Certain runes have been absolutely unusable since preseason first came out. Mage itemization has SOMEHOW gotten MORE static. Worst yet has been the last few patches. ADCs just don't get to exist anymore if they're not like, lucian, and even that's a stretch. Crit just got fucking abolished. +1

Malak6/28/2018, 1:00:31 AM5 votes

Maybe if assassins weren't so good right now playing ADC would be fun again and not just in bot lane

Azeranth6/28/2018, 1:20:15 PM4 votes

Now, to be clear, your complaint is that "The position on the map i want to play, is not limited exclusive to a single category of champions, even though literally every other role in the game has a variety of classes which occupy their role" I'm so tired of marksmen complaining their is more kinds of carries than just marksmen. Try top lane, where you'll face some bruisers, some tanks, some fighters, some mages, some assassins literally everything.

In support there are peel tanks like braum, enchanters like Janna, mage supports like lux, engage tanks like Alistar. Piss off and stop trying to ruin the game for everyone else because you're entitled and want the entire game to revolve around you only having to into other classes identical to yours, and being the all star of the game from 1 item to 6

Suspirian6/28/2018, 6:42:47 AM3 votes

Agreed. I've played ADC since season 2 and this has been the least fun couple of patches I've ever experienced. I'm honestly thinking about taking an extended break from league because of it. If you play a crit ADC champion you already had little map agency and ability to do things on your own before 8.11. Now you just straight up don't get to play the game until 30 minutes, if at all.

Hyquiem6/28/2018, 6:52:26 AM3 votes

Look you play meta and then say skill matters, buddy you not only insult the definition of skill but you turn it into a sub category for meta. On the other hand 8.11 shouldn’t nerf assasins it was good to nerf Adcs, they were to powerful and at the end even a mage had to make a flashy play to get the adc so their team had a chance to win. Supports just got nerfed,but it never comes down the fact Adc mains make up a large player base. Though this would be irrelevant, however the adc roles is almost like an FPS game instead it’s third person. At the end of the day it’s all to blow people up who don’t have a gun. Assasins underperform when adcs blow them up, adcs underperform when everything blows them up. So much Booms going around the rift it doesn’t feel like a typical game it feels like WW2 with adcs, assasins, or bruisers being Natzis with the best gear and technological development. And Mages become Serbia as being typically small on power house. Supports are just Turkey as they ally with adcs. Junglers are the only to power farm unless they are bursty or cc based.

For all I care Adcs should underperform in a snowball meta if mages do the same. Their are 2 ad classes for late game one being marksmen and the other being brusiers but there’s only one AP class for late game which has its all rounds but then it’s weaker compared to the others at how much damage can be dealt. It’s not like 2 Ad classes over preforming is balanced it’s just another worst state. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND DPS MARKSMEN ARE NOT COD PLAYERS BLOWING UP ANYTHING SQUISHY. DONT YOU REALIZE ASSASINS CANT UNDERPREFORM WITHOUT ADCS BEING UNBALANCED. DONT YOU SEE THAT IF MAGES ARE STRONG THEY DOMINATE THE ENTIRE META AS WELL AS BRUSIERS. ITS A CYCLE OF SOMEONE EATING THE SAME TYPE OF FOOD BUT ITS A DIFFERENT DISH EACH TIME.

vgamedude6/28/2018, 6:57:11 AM3 votes

"Wow one patch where adcs aren't literally a required carry force in every game :( no fair riot"

god adc players are LITERALLY the worst

MasterDClone6/28/2018, 6:10:35 AM3 votes

There are still like 4-5 viable marksman's in the game currently. Now for the first time in like 6 years marksmen's aren't a mandatory pick for both teams and i think that is healthy for the game, personally i don't like seeing that many beefy mages botlane instead of a very one-shottable adc but overall there was nothing wrong with the change. I think the reason why last season was your best season was because it was ardent sensor meta where you had an enchanter support every game to give you a shitload of stats that allow you to shit on everyone.

hhaavviikk6/28/2018, 7:27:32 AM2 votes

wait so you mean to say, in a meta which revolves around the early game, a late game class is bad? SHOCKING, CLEARLY THE LATE GAME CLASSES NEED BUFFS!!