Kayle will be a problem until you address the sustain of Time Warp Tonic and Klepto

Horse Grenades·4/15/2019, 9:38:00 PM·2 votes·1,848 views

First, I thought Kai'sa's advanced abilities based on AP. AD or AS was a GREAT design, she is a ticking time bomb, but the explosion is avoidable by a dominant lane and gold denial. The problem of a "time bomb" is made so much worse when it's 2 things:

  1. Unavoidable (due to level and not gold)
  2. Not easy enough to abuse. If Kayle is weak early it shouldn't REQUIRE jungle assistance to kill her. Unless you're Riven or Renekton klepto and time warp gives her so much sustain that if she plays remotely safe and your jg is disinterested in ganking top then she will reach 11 without too much trouble.

21 Comments

Warpes4/15/2019, 11:15:13 PM2 votes

Or just revert the kayle rework, but keep the vgu

Colte4/15/2019, 11:21:23 PM2 votes

hecarim also abuses timewarp tonic with last stand [slayer-jinx-wink]

Spicy Rice4/16/2019, 1:04:18 AM2 votes

Can I just say, klepto is some straight bull shit. I was playing a game where i was kayle, and i had an ezreal on my team.

He got around 1k gold from klepto by 20 mins.

I got around 270 at 20 mins.

With that level of rng, they should remove gold bags, buff the gold to 15 or 20 per proc, and just let people get pots/wards

Its All Skillzz4/16/2019, 2:43:49 PM2 votes

corrupting potion needs to go.

boricCentaur14/16/2019, 1:03:17 AM1 votes

Unavoidable not really she needs gold to be good. If she is a item or two down the enemy top will do more unless your like 40 mins in but that's supposed to happen.

The main reason you take kleto is for gold and it gets you your passive faster the sustain is like the last reason you take it since kayle would not take kleto if it just only give sustain and no the sustain is the weakest part of it and it not strong at all like really 50 healing and 100 mana that yep sooo good it only takes you getting 3 to equal a normal normal healing pot wowwowow so boken.

hrooza dota 4/16/2019, 12:51:02 PM1 votes

its not those 2 tbh, its item 2010 that give a high sustain

btw, kayle can fully live without klepto its just the best rune on her