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Riot Promotes Bullying.

WhaiSoSerious··23 votes·3,068 views

Why do people like me get suspended/banned for defending yourself in LoL when someone says "this jg sucks, he hasn't ganked for me once, omg bronzies"

Then when I try to reason with the person it's considered being toxic? Since when can't we have a conversation about why I suck with the person bad mouthing me. How is that a sin or a bananble offense? As a kid my dad raised me fairly well i'd like to add. But one of the main things he taught me based off his experience was to not let people bully you because then it becomes a lifestyle. And so my entire life i did just that. As a kid when my friends got bullied I stood up for them and got into multiple, physical fights for my friends cause some douche was picking on him. I'm talking scum of the earth, people just getting what they want from some of my friends and doing as they will. So naturally I bud in and push him around to see how he likes it and that turns into, without saying, a fist fight. My entire life on this planet i was taught to not roll over and take shit from anyone. Thats in my core. So my question is why does LoL have the need to teach us standards or in some cases promote bullying. How is this fair to the people who are sincerely trying to hold their shit together while the guy in the same game as you for 40 mins straight is telling you how your gameplay is shit and your the reason the team is loosing. Some of you might say "just mute them". Yes thats fair. But on the other hand why can't i have an argument with this guy about why he thinks im a bad player?

Before i go any further I'd like to point out that this is my 2nd suspension. My first one I agree 100% was legit and reasonable because for a while I was just bitching and moaning for the smallest of reasons. Which I'll address in a bit. But this 2nd time, which was just a few minutes ago was literally for nothing besides trying to act mature for the most part and trying to reason with a "toxic" players"

Now my other thing is this.. Why is LoL trying to change people's habbits, habbits that has molded the human race to the point that we are at now? Since when is it LoL job to baby sit people who for w/e reason are being rude or maybe it's not even that they want to be rude. Maybe it's just that they want to pull the competitive side out of you. Most of us get extremely competitive when we are angry, up to the point where we pull endurances and skills we never knew we owned. Thats how we become skilled far above what we could have imagined. By failing and having someone tell you "you suck, you aren't enough, your skills are bronze level, you aren't good enough"? "embrace your haters" is something that i take to heart. If it weren't for people on this game constantly telling me i blow at this game i'd probably still be in silver right now or even not ranking at all or EVEN not playing the game at all. When you take out the haters out of the picture, what do you have now? I'll tell you what. You get subpar players, decent, above average at best.

Lastly of the rant... Verbal abuse is part of every sport that exists. Every game. Since when is it okay for Riot to play god? I mean who are they to judge us? We all know everyone has a bit of evil or "toxicity" inside of us. So how can Riot judge us for being competitive?

That job should be left to the parents or the teachers @ school trying to install morals into our immature brains. After that, if you didn't get it from your parents or your teachers or your guardians then what makes Riot think they are going to change us? The idea that they need to filter the game from "toxic" players which is arguably, actually toxic based off who your asking. That idea is absolutely insane.... In other games/sports "toxic" people is what makes specific fights/games unique. Because all this tension builds up and anticipation then you have 2 rivals going balls deep for the W. That is life. You have 2 people giving it their all because their pride is at stake. Why try to take that away from a game that potentially can be one of the best of all time? You have a good game but i can bet you that the people at the top aren't potentially the best players in the world. Those insanely unique players are probably banned somewhere because their competitive side go the best of them. Maybe just like me they were taught to defend themselves when being pushed. Maybe it's in their core system to not accept being bullied.

Riot.. stop playing god and stop trying to change who I am. This is who I am, accept me. If me trying to defend people and myself from the scum of the earth is bad then may god strike me now with the strongest of bolts. I should be able to defend myself without being punished.

That should be my right. It should be everyone's right who is being harassed.

I'm still alive.

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sheldonbunny13 votes

Abuse is never ok. That includes verbal abuse. I think Riot has the right idea. It is not in the spirit of good sportsmanship to act that way, and honestly, it does not improve the results of a game. It just angers people, hurts people, and demoralizes them.

Could Riot refine their system? Of course. Anything like this should be a work in progress. Honestly though, if it's too difficult for someone not to flare up and attack others over a simple game, they might want to do a little self improvement.

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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Abuse is never ok. That includes verbal abuse. I think Riot has the right idea. It is not in the spirit of good sportsmanship to act that way, and honestly, it does not improve the results of a game. It just angers people, hurts people, and demoralizes them.

Could Riot refine their system? Of course. Anything like this should be a work in progress. Honestly though, if it's too difficult for someone not to flare up and attack others over a simple game, they might want to do a little self improvement.

I agree up to a point. There are things you can change if those ideas weren't engraved into your little brain for years and years. There is just a part of every person that no matter what you do you will never change it because it was a rule of thumb in their family. And im sure everyone knows exactly what im talking about when i say that. For me, that rule of thumb was not to eat with my mouth open during dinner and 2 not to let people push me around or it can become very dangerous. Me trying to accept not defending myself or replying to a-holes is like trying to change the stripe pattern of a tiger.

It just doesn't feel right to me at all. For me to get suspended for responding to people doesn't feel justified.

It is what it is and I hope this post creates some awareness for the Riot staff. Yes. Raging back at A-holes is bad but whats worst is Riot banning people for trying to make a point with the person raging you or trying to prove them wrong by having an argument. I can see if someone gets personal or starts throwing curse words around. But I can bet that non of my comments towards ragers were slurs of any sort. The furthest i went was calling someone dumb/retarded but i never went as far as saying "your mother sucks", "suck my D*ck", or anything of that sort. My replies to people were mostly legit arguments about how they thought i sucked and why i thought they were worse than I was because of an item they didn't have in their kit or a poor decision they might have made previously and how that doesn't make them just as bad if not worse.

The Queen Viper2 votes

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There is just a part of every person that no matter what you do you will never change it because it was a rule of thumb in their family. And im sure everyone knows exactly what im talking about when i say that.

OK, so if you apply this logic... then can you please elaborate why you are still trying to reason with these delusional ragekids? You know from the get-go that they will never change and listen to you, so why do you bother?

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Me trying to accept not defending myself or replying to a-holes is like trying to change the stripe pattern of a tiger.

You do understand that there are things unique to Real Life that differ from the ways how Internet works right? Those random ragekids who you see in your game, can never actually hurt you. U know that right? And ffs, is your self-esteem so frigging low that you just have to "defend" yourself against these random people who know nothing about you? Seriously? Why? WTF? Why are you giving them so much credit in the first place?

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Raging back at A-holes is bad but whats worst is Riot banning people for trying to make a point with the person raging you or trying to prove them wrong by having an argument.

Or maybe they are trying to make you realize that if you want to make arguments and have a discussion about it... get a room and take it to somewhere else?

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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OK, so if you apply this logic... then can you please elaborate why you are still trying to reason with these delusional ragekids? You know from the get-go that they will never change and listen to you, so why do you bother?

You do understand that there are things unique to Real Life that differ from the ways how Internet works right? Those random ragekids who you see in your game, can never actually hurt you. U know that right? And ffs, is your self-esteem so frigging low that you just have to "defend" yourself against these random people who know nothing about you? Seriously? Why? WTF? Why are you giving them so much credit in the first place?

Or maybe they are trying to make you realize that if you want to make arguments and have a discussion about it... get a room and take it to somewhere else?

Maybe my selfesteem is that low, who knows right? Maybe its someone else who barely getting by in life, who knows right?

I'm not having a professional argument with the person. I'm simply making small points.

There is no justification for 2 parties getting banned when 1 is just mad at the other for making him feel like trash. There should be a lesser punishment for that.

Few weeks back, Riot sent me this warning mail. "retaliation is unacceptable". That is insane... You know why? Because in other words that means you can't fight back or you'll get punished. Thats absurd... So basically mute/accept the verbal abuse. Those are your options. Do you see how crazy that sounds?

Human race is a social race. You don't just shut up. Nobody does. And the few people who do are usually victims of verbal abuse or bullying.

I'm not. Thats all there is to it. Some people need to put their big boy pants on and learn to just answer a question like "How are you better than me when you don't even have a sighstone 20 mins in as a support?" instead of just saying "your a noob, omg, bronzies..".

It isn't Riots job to filter out "toxic" players. They are a game designer/creator not the law. This aint CSI or law and order. Its League of Legends. Their business should be maintaining the game and creating content not filtering people who say "your bad". If they want to filter people at least filter the really bad people who actually curse and mean harm in the filthiest of ways. Not the people who say you are bad or your skill is bronze level.

The Queen Viper1 votes

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I'm not having a professional argument with the person. I'm simply making small points.

But that's the thing... they DO NOT care. At all. The only one who cares and wastes time, is you.

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There is no justification for 2 parties getting banned when 1 is just mad at the other for making him feel like trash. There should be a lesser punishment for that.

Probably, however you should have no reason to talk with such a person in the first place.

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Few weeks back, Riot sent me this warning mail. "retaliation is unacceptable". That is insane... You know why? Because in other words that means you can't fight back or you'll get punished.

Nope, it's not insane... first of all, again, you should have no reason whatsoever to talk with people who rage/flame you in the first place. Secondly, it is NOT YOUR JOB to "fight back". Your job is to use the mute button, report those who violate the rules and rage/flame, and that's that.

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Thats absurd... So basically mute/accept the verbal abuse. Those are your options. Do you see how crazy that sounds?

Crazy... ehh, no? Mute is your weapon of choice here, and you would only accept the abuse if you do not report them.

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Human race is a social race. You don't just shut up. Nobody does. And the few people who do are usually victims of verbal abuse or bullying.

Well maybe this game is not for you then... go try Second Life or Facebook games or other social games. Or play LoL only with your friends, if you want to socialize with people.

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Some people need to put their big boy pants on and learn to just answer a question like "How are you better than me when you don't even have a sighstone 20 mins in as a support?" instead of just saying "your a noob, omg, bronzies..".

I'm sorry bro, but they are not obligated to answer you... and why would you ask such things in the first place? You don't need to ask from a trash player why they are trash since you already know they are trash. Again, they will never listen to you anyways.

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It isn't Riots job to filter out "toxic" players. They are a game designer/creator not the law.

You do understand that there are laws and rules within the game right? Precisely, since they are the game designer and creators, they have all the rights to decide who are eligible to play their game and who are not. They make the rules.

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Their business should be maintaining the game and creating content not filtering people who say "your bad"

Incorrect. People who are toxic tards will negatively impact their business, so ofc they will filter those people out. Are you serious?

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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But that's the thing... they DO NOT care. At all. The only one who cares and wastes time, is you.

Probably, however you should have no reason to talk with such a person in the first place.

Nope, it's not insane... first of all, again, you should have no reason whatsoever to talk with people who rage/flame you in the first place. Secondly, it is NOT YOUR JOB to "fight back". Your job is to use the mute button, report those who violate the rules and rage/flame, and that's that.

Crazy... ehh, no? Mute is your weapon of choice here, and you would only accept the abuse if you do not report them.

Well maybe this game is not for you then... go try Second Life or Facebook games or other social games. Or play LoL only with your friends, if you want to socialize with people.

I'm sorry bro, but they are not obligated to answer you... and why would you ask such things in the first place? You don't need to ask from a trash player why they are trash since you already know they are trash. Again, they will never listen to you anyways.

You do understand that there are laws and rules within the game right? Precisely, since they are the game designer and creators, they have all the rights to decide who are eligible to play their game and who are not. They make the rules.

Incorrect. People who are toxic tards will negatively impact their business, so ofc they will filter those people out. Are you serious?

  1. We are in the same team.
  2. There is a chat box for a reason.

Those 2 reasons is enough for me to be able to talk to someone.

I'm accepting the abuse regardless of me being reported. You aren't making any sense bro.

Again, there are lobbies and chat boxes.

How will negetive people impact their business lol? Please explain in detail. They get their money, their support. Thats all a bushiness needs to be successful.

In sports when people are doing drugs or raping women. The sponsors get rid of them not the sports themselves. You lose sponsorships.

Not to be rude man but non of your points valid besides the "just mute them" part and the "they create the rules cause its their game" part. Which isn't the point.

I'm talking about people getting punishments depending on the severity of their negativity. People who respond to negative people should not be getting the same punishment as the person who initiated the toxicity.

I keep stressing this part because it make the most sense. It isn't Riots job to police peoples behavoirs. They are a game designer not a day care.

A firefighter is not specialized to do cop work. A baker cannot do a cops job. Thats the reason why people specialize in specific careers. Because it takes more than just the general idea of the subject to do that job correctly or address that subject correctly.

It's like us tryin got tell the balance staff how to balance their game. It's not just about the character its about how it will impact the game as a whole. If Riot has no business policing the people then the 12 year olds in tribunal much less.

The Queen Viper1 votes

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  1. We are in the same team.
  2. There is a chat box for a reason.

Those 2 reasons is enough for me to be able to talk to someone.

They are there so that you can communicate with your team regarding strats etc. ... they are NOT there so that you could have a discussion about non-game related things.

{quoted} How will negetive people impact their business lol? Please explain in detail. They get their money, their support. Thats all a bushiness needs to be successful.

Last time I checked, League of Legends is a FTP game... so the community and the players are their money essentially. Negative players will make people quit the game and therefore, they will lose profit / sales.

{quoted} I'm talking about people getting punishments depending on the severity of their negativity. People who respond to negative people should not be getting the same punishment as the person who initiated the toxicity.

Again, you should have no reason to respond to a negative player in the first place. If you are unable to understand that, then enjoy your many chat restrictions.

{quoted} It isn't Riots job to police peoples behavoirs. They are a game designer not a day care.

Wrong. It's their game, and they make the rules how you should behave when playing their game.

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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They are there so that you can communicate with your team regarding strats etc. ... they are NOT there so that you could have a discussion about non-game related things.

Last time I checked, League of Legends is a FTP game... so the community and the players are their money essentially. Negative players will make people quit the game and therefore, they will lose profit / sales.

Again, you should have no reason to respond to a negative player in the first place. If you are unable to understand that, then enjoy your many chat restrictions.

Wrong. It's their game, and they make the rules how you should behave when playing their game.

Your responses are... nvm.

Have a good day sir.

The Queen Viper1 votes

Enjoy dem chat restrictions.

Troll for Trump2 votes

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The Queen Viper1 votes

or you could just get gud.

Troll for Trump2 votes

Ouch I am so offended by your totally ungeneric and creative responce. You "Tear" me up

sheldonbunny8 votes

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I agree up to a point. There are things you can change if those ideas weren't engraved into your little brain for years and years. There is just a part of every person that no matter what you do you will never change it because it was a rule of thumb in their family. And im sure everyone knows exactly what im talking about when i say that. For me, that rule of thumb was not to eat with my mouth open during dinner and 2 not to let people push me around or it can become very dangerous. Me trying to accept not defending myself or replying to a-holes is like trying to change the stripe pattern of a tiger.

It just doesn't feel right to me at all. For me to get suspended for responding to people doesn't feel justified.

It is what it is and I hope this post creates some awareness for the Riot staff. Yes. Raging back at A-holes is bad but whats worst is Riot banning people for trying to make a point with the person raging you or trying to prove them wrong by having an argument. I can see if someone gets personal or starts throwing curse words around. But I can bet that non of my comments towards ragers were slurs of any sort. The furthest i went was calling someone dumb/retarded but i never went as far as saying "your mother sucks", "suck my D*ck", or anything of that sort. My replies to people were mostly legit arguments about how they thought i sucked and why i thought they were worse than I was because of an item they didn't have in their kit or a poor decision they might have made previously and how that doesn't make them just as bad if not worse.

That's inaccurate. Either you can change or suppress behavior. Tempers flare. Patience wanes. In both cases it's called use common sense and self control, something severely lacking in the current generation. If it is that difficult to hold your tongue, then it's a sign of a bigger issue and the person should seek anger management classes or something.

As for who's at fault, the initial rager or the guy responding, it's both. My reply is the idea that no one should be acting like that in the first place. The fundamental idea that you can't change others, only yourself applies here because Riot gets to decide what kind of behavior they tolerate. They've taken a stand. People are just upset they can't have temper tantrums on a constant basis. I've enjoyed the results.

If a person can't control their temper, just don't type. Easy peasy. You're suppose to be playing the game, not having a conversation anyways.

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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That's inaccurate. Either you can change or suppress behavior. Tempers flare. Patience wanes. In both cases it's called use common sense and self control, something severely lacking in the current generation. If it is that difficult to hold your tongue, then it's a sign of a bigger issue and the person should seek anger management classes or something.

As for who's at fault, the initial rager or the guy responding, it's both. My reply is the idea that no one should be acting like that in the first place. The fundamental idea that you can't change others, only yourself applies here because Riot gets to decide what kind of behavior they tolerate. They've taken a stand. People are just upset they can't have temper tantrums on a constant basis. I've enjoyed the results.

If a person can't control their temper, just don't type. Easy peasy. You're suppose to be playing the game, not having a conversation anyways.

It's never been a thing... There has never been a generation where people were i self control or had 100% of the time common sense. We are talking about the human race here where slavery was a thing and just recently we got bombed by another country, supposedly. There will never be a time on this planet that humans have full control of their emotions. That is an unrealistic ideal. We cannot control our emotions. We can up to a point suppress them but the rest is all natural. We can try and suppress them but god knows that isn't always a possibility especially when you got people non-stop for 40 mins talking trash to you.

I dont want to mute those people. I want to know why they think im shit. Why should i mute them? Because thats what you prefer to do and so I'm bound to your way? If you want to ignore it then fine. I respect your decision. But I want to see why he thinks im shet and why he thinks it was my fault. And apparently I'm not the only one since so many others have already made it clear that they've been deemed the same punishment.

The Queen Viper3 votes

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I want to know why they think im shit.

And that's the problem... you care too much about some random comment made by some random people on the Internet.

When you are giving your best, you have no reason to doubt yourself in the first place.

Anidan3 votes

off-topic, but I like how it's apparently only ever the "current" generation that has whatever problem springs up. Every generation has had the same problems, it's just magnified with the advent of the internet. Whereas a hundred years ago a dude lacking common sense and self control was just labelled within the purview of "boys will be boys" and left off as that, now somehow this generation with exact same issue is brought up as being the only generation with that problem.

It always falls on the current generation, but never the generations that brought up the current generation.

Unknown1011 votes

Obviously you have not had the "WHY SO MAD TREATMENT" this does not require you to respond to make you mad. And if you respond you are gone even if it is to say I am not mad. By the end of this you are so pissed off you just rage quit. But to defend WhaiSoSerious I do get the same way. And he should have the right to defend himself. But what dan told me "http://www.twitch.tv/checkoutdan" give them one response if they continue to abuse you just mute them as it will just bring down the rest of the team. They will either back you and he will play worse or they jump on his bag wagon and just make you play worse. And they will miss farm to type the abuse so its kind of lose lose. And if you want to get back at them and you lose just say ignore them and say gg wp to the other team. They will be like report this @#%$ but instead of reporting they will just rage break something and quit.

Renaille6 votes

Cursing someone out is not defending yourself just because "he started it"

Troll for Trump2 votes

If someone attacks you, you can attack them back. Courts have something along the lines of that. ANd retaliation isn't some bs like "go fuck yourself bronze piece of trash or "kill yourself" etc. It is something like "please don't say that, stfu(thats not toxic stop getting offender by 'stfu' people), Im tying to help, it's fine to group up etc.) You try to act ncie but still get punished by the chat restriction system. There are a large amount of players, and a small portion that has never been punished. Those unpunished players are on high horses, acting like Garen(what). But as soon as they get hit by a ban they start raging on the forums like babies. That basically happened when the chat restriction system was implemented early. Back when there were still forums

Sona Ping2 votes

A: This isn't court. B: Even if it was court, this isn't anywhere near as serious, so it's different and thus, said scenarios are not applicable. C: Even if it was applicable, you still don't get to "attack" them.

Most important of all, even ignoring all of those:

If this was a legal situation, he would **still ** be punished for some kind of disorderly conduct, just as he was now.

Troll for Trump1 votes

No. He wouldn't have. If you are attacked you can attack back. Look it up.

You ignore the greater 2/3 of my statement and only focus on that one single sentence. Read the whole thing and actually make a legitimate reply to it please. :I

Sona Ping2 votes

Do not talk to me about this, about law. I know about this through family profession and by study. There are many provisions in regards to defense of oneself, and what is legally permitted, which further varies by jurisdictions. But you are not allowed to just "attack"; you are unequivocally wrong.

Troll for Trump1 votes

seems fishy. BUt there is the stand your ground law(probably more). Certain provocations you can respond to,; rational provoctions, but not some salty bs, like trying to kill a boss because he fired you.

Sona Ping3 votes

Just. Stop. Don't talk about laws you have overheard, vaguely mentioned but you don't even know about.

"Stand Your Ground" type laws have more to do with requirements to retreat and have higher requirements of evidence and so forth but either way that's an irrelevant and retarded point because self-defense laws have nothing to do with arguments in public. OP is a pretentious and argumentative ass, who is in violation of rules, regardless of the context, for disruptive, public arguing.

Troll for Trump2 votes

So you fking say this isn't a court, then PRETEND this is a public argument? No. No it is not. item 3070 .Just becasue you disagree with what his "opinion" is and are in denial doesn't mean you can call him an ass. If this isn't a "court room" case( never said it was ltierally said one irrelevent sentence about it, which once again you CHOOSE to single out and ignore the other logical statement. Typical failure at arguing/debating right here) then this isn't a public conversation. Stop dragging this conversation away with your item 3070 s. Now you are being a hypocritical prick.

TBH I learned the "stand your ground" law from SOuth Park's "World War Zimmerman" episode.

Sona Ping3 votes

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TBH I learned the "stand your ground" law from SOuth Park

I don't really need to say more.

Troll for Trump1 votes

people like youreally need to be chat restricted. Or learn to get off the high horse. You claim you are a "lawyer" or what not but sound like you are 10.

Gallowgrim5 votes

DO what I do.Be utterly polite, civil, and passive-aggressively judo their rage into making them have conniptions, turning the entire team against them, and getting them reported out of the player pool. All without being toxic in return.

The only good rager is a banned rager! Do your part today!

#RagersGetOut

(And if you can't manage the sort of delicate balance this requires - mute them. They're pissy trolls on the internet, likely not through puberty. They are irrelevant, and should be treated as such)

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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DO what I do.Be utterly polite, civil, and passive-aggressively judo their rage into making them have conniptions, turning the entire team against them, and getting them reported out of the player pool. All without being toxic in return.

The only good rager is a banned rager! Do your part today!

#RagersGetOut

Teach me. I like this idea.

Gallowgrim4 votes

It's not easy. For one, you can never tilt. Ever. You can't say anything rude, or toxic. You must simply love-bomb them, be as pleasant as possible, and exude an easygoing sense of quiet scorn masquerading as pity.

It helps to be Southern, and to have worked a call center job for a bank where you had idiots for customers but weren't allowed to simply tell them "your account's overdrawn because you were irresponsible with your money."

Just play to the best of your ability, be polite and cordial to your teammates, congratulate them on good plays - even simply competent ones, and be that player you always wished was on your team - if not mechanically, then socially. Never argue with them, never justify yourself. They aren't owed a justification.

Then sit back and watch as the rest of the team eats them alive.

It's beautiful, and teaches you to be a better player, and makes the ragekiddie look like a total fool and bully, liable to eat reports for their trouble, and it gives you the satisfaction of knowing that despite all their attempts to dominate you, you were the one ultimately in control.

sheldonbunny2 votes

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It's not easy. For one, you can never tilt. Ever. You can't say anything rude, or toxic. You must simply love-bomb them, be as pleasant as possible, and exude an easygoing sense of quiet scorn masquerading as pity.

It helps to be Southern, and to have worked a call center job for a bank where you had idiots for customers but weren't allowed to simply tell them "your account's overdrawn because you were irresponsible with your money."

Just play to the best of your ability, be polite and cordial to your teammates, congratulate them on good plays - even simply competent ones, and be that player you always wished was on your team - if not mechanically, then socially. Never argue with them, never justify yourself. They aren't owed a justification.

Then sit back and watch as the rest of the team eats them alive.

It's beautiful, and teaches you to be a better player, and makes the ragekiddie look like a total fool and bully, liable to eat reports for their trouble, and it gives you the satisfaction of knowing that despite all their attempts to dominate you, you were the one ultimately in control.

I've always appreciated this mentality. In the fact of how genuine or manipulative it can be depending on the scenario. To sum it up, "kill them with kindness."

Joe Dredd4 votes

lyte smite pls

EffectFX4 votes

Stop caring what people think about you and play the game. You don't contribute to anything when you arguing in the middle of a game.

Budupops3 votes

well think about it. if there weren't any trolls the game would be a lot easier

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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well think about it. if there weren't any trolls the game would be a lot easier

Yeah, but I'm not talking about trolls. I'm talking about getting a lesser punishment for simply replying to the person degrading your gameplay.

Trolls are a different story. Honestly, i don't care about trolls because for the most part they are pretty funny.

Hinro Honato3 votes

You taking time to reply to them is degrading your gameplay.

Ultimate Snipe3 votes

The fact that a report option for "Unskilled Player" exists says so much about Riot.

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ultimate Snipe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tW1xjLrg,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2015-06-23T04:57:43.857+0000)

The fact that a report option for "Unskilled Player" exists says so much about Riot.

Seriously lol... Why is that even an option. That one and refusing to communicate are kinda dumb...

Ultimate Snipe1 votes

I get refusing to communicate but that is very conditional because someone who mutes others for raging has a different purpose than someone who just ignores what others say.

brad2 votes

because lyte brainwashed the community into thinking having emotions means you shouldnt be able to play the game

The Queen Viper1 votes

Usually the people who express emotions (during the game) are not players... but the viewers, spectators and the crowd.

Sure we have emotions, but there's no reason to express them when we are playing the game. They do not help at all, in fact they are a waste of time and will make you lose your focus as well.

brad2 votes

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in fact they are a waste of time and will make you lose your focus as well.

case and fucking point

it is not healthy to bottle up all of your emotions

The Queen Viper1 votes

[{quoted}](name=hi im bread,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tW1xjLrg,comment-id=000700000001,timestamp=2015-06-23T03:16:36.967+0000)

it is not healthy to bottle up all of your emotions

Who said you should bottle them up?

Just do your venting somewhere else that's not League of Legends, like a normal person.

WhaiSoSerious1 votes

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Who said you should bottle them up?

Just do your venting somewhere else that's not League of Legends, like a normal person.

What do you mean like a normal person? Every game I play is someone raging. There is always 1 person raging.

The Queen Viper1 votes

Yes, there are many dysfunctional people playing this game.

Normal person doesn't rage to someone, in a video game. There's no need to.

sheldonbunny1 votes

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Yes, there are many dysfunctional people playing this game.

Normal person doesn't rage to someone, in a video game. There's no need to.

There is no such thing as normal.

Hinro Honato1 votes

That's not quite true. Normal is what the majority would do. When crazy people become the majority then crazy is normal.

sheldonbunny2 votes

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What do you mean like a normal person? Every game I play is someone raging. There is always 1 person raging.

You must have some terrible luck then because most games I don't have any ragers. The times that I do have certainly been unpleasant but thankfully I've not had to deal with the real malcontents out to make everyone miserable. Least not ingame. In life, that's a whole 'nother story.

sheldonbunny2 votes

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Stop caring what people think about you and play the game. You don't contribute to anything when you arguing in the middle of a game.

[{quoted}](name=Hinro Honato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tW1xjLrg,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-06-23T04:05:08.013+0000)

You taking time to reply to them is degrading your gameplay.

Both of these is exactly how I feel. If you're taking attention from the game, you are not playing to the best of your ability. Chat is there, but not for social hour. It's another tool in a team game to help coordinate tactics, not get into a pissing match with one another.

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