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So I Decided to do a Little Research on the Playerbase

Roll in Grass·4/16/2016, 2:12:20 AM·10 votes·2,122 views

You know, those people who post QQ threads about how "x" champion is too op because of "y" reason, "z" item needs to be "removed from the game", League "doesn't require skill anymore", or Dynamic Queue "punishes you for playing alone". I decided to look up several of the OPs and people that commented these remarks, and the results were astounding!

I didn't find a single person above Gold 4 post anything like this. Most of the people who posted these things were either Silver or Unranked, and I even found a level 11 posting a QQ comment about League not requiring skill anymore, in which most of what he said seemed copied and pasted as if he was joining the bandwagon of QQers.

Before I begin my rant, I'd like to say I am Platinum 4, currently in my series to Platinum 3, and I started the season Silver 4. What I say is pretty credible due to my ability to climb with ease compared to your 200 games in Silver or Gold.

Wanna know my theory on why nobody above Gold 4 posted a QQ thread? Well, to put it simply, you're bad.

Lmao just kidding just kidding.

To put it simply, you're really fucking bad.

The people who post these QQ threads have this mindset that they're really good at the game and it's just the stupid op meta that's holding them back, just like in Season 3 or 4 it was "noob teams". Now they're just scapegoating on something else and throwing false banter at Riot when the game is actually in a decent state. Sure, there are some annoying and overpowered picks or items in the game, but not only do they all have counterplay, but there's always something annoying and overpowered in the meta. Season 3, hypertanks and farm mages. Most of Season 4, assassins. Late Season 4, Feral Flare. Early Season 5, Cinderhulk. Mid-Season 5, actually some amazing balance. Late Season 5, Juggernauts. Early Season 6, AD Carries.

We're currently in a meta with a lot of variety: You can go with a sated/guinsoo's jungler for the late game, Kindred and dominate the early and late game, a cinderhulk tank jungler for the midgame, or just dominate the early game with a Runic Echoes ap jungler. For the midlane you can play an ad carry, an assassin, or any type of mage, be it utility, burst, burst-assassin, or farm. Hell, Urgot is even coming back into the midlane meta! For ad carry, almost all the ad carries are in meta right now; you can play any ad carry you want and still do a nice job. For support, every support is viable except Taric, and there are even some off-meta supports coming in. Toplane is the only role that doesn't have much variety, and still we still a decent variety up there. You can get your classic toplane starter kit with Grasp of the Undying, Potion of Corruption, Sunfire Cape, and Iceborne Gauntlet, you can go with a nice juggernaut build with Sterak's and Titanic Hydra, and the meta is starting to open up with picks like Kayle top seeing a bit more play in the higher elos.

Point is, due to the high amount of variety, the game's not really in a broken state. There's a lot more variety in games than any other season besides mid-season 5. Also, there's counterplay to every single meta pick in the game. It's really not Riot's fault if you want to be able to play Teemo jungle or Karma top. If you're going to play ranked, you're going to pick what's meta or you're not going to climb. It's not Riot's fault if you want to rot in Silver and Gold. It's completely your fault. You either learn how to play against these meta picks, or you don't have a good time playing the game.

League of Legends is a skill-based game and not knowing what to play, how to play it, and how to play against other settings with that is going to prevent you from having fun. For example, I've become an Aurelion Sol main. After I played him on release, I knew he was a champion I could really get into. I played him in a few normals to get the hang of him, then I took him in ranked to actually play against good players and learn his matchups. After playing him for a little more than 50 games, I figured out most of the situations and how to play them as Aurelion. It doesn't matter if the enemy picks Zed, Yasuo, or Fizz, I'm not going to feed and I'm still going to dominate the mid-late game, just because I learned the matchups and know what to do in the situation. That's how League should be.

Lastly, another thing that's going to prevent you from climbing is not knowing how to pick a comp. It doesn't matter if you main Teemo, Twitch, Aurelion, or whatever; if your comp doesn't call for it, don't play it. If you want to climb, you build around what your team needs. If your first pick locks in Sivir and second pick locks in Gragas and you're playing top, and the enemy picks Pantheon top, you know you're going to have to pick a champion with nice early sustain who is tanky and has good cc/peel. So, instead of picking Teemo, pick Maokai, Darius, or Sion. That's just an example of picking around your team.

I'm not going to say there's nothing wrong with the game, but I am going to say that, honestly, the game's not in as bad a state as you all QQ about. There are always going to be problems with every game, it's impossible to make a perfect game. Every season has its own problems, and Riot honestly knows more about the game than you do. They know what they're doing when it comes to game balance, while you think you know what you're talking about when you really don't. Until you reach at least Gold 1, you have no right to talk about game balance as you truthfully have no understanding of the game whatsoever if you're stuck in anything below that.

P.S. I must say Riot you need to balance out Maw of Malmortius and Zhonya's. Massively different gold efficiency.

<EDIT: People are really taking what I said out of context, and replying to all these ignorant ooc comments isn't going to go anywhere. I also like how this post went from 6 upvotes back down to 1 xD>

43 Comments

ChargeItDownMid4/16/2016, 3:32:38 AM8 votes

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FearEngineer4/16/2016, 2:53:59 AM5 votes

You're right, balance would be a lot easier and there would be a lot less complaining if the bulk of the playerbase performed at a platinum+ skill level.

...at which point a platinum+ skill level would become the new "bad"...

You do understand that? Right? "bad play" is defined in relation to the performance in the top ~15% of the playerbase. That relationship doesn't change regardless of how high the 'skill floor' is.

To put it in a different context: If 100 people run a race (assuming other influences are controlled) we determine the first 15 people to finish are the best mile runners in the group. They are the fastest, or they have the most endurance, or they have the best combination of applicable traits- whatever.

We don't conclude "Oh man- only 15 people here are good runners. Everyone else here is slow as fuck omg"

At least you're 'good' at league though (btw, by the same measure, anyone above you could say you're shit also), because you aren't very good at basic logic and your attitude (superiority complex?) is pretty egregious.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Shine on, superstar.

Very Hard Engage4/16/2016, 2:20:26 AM4 votes

i just want you to know, i've said the exact same things when i was a lowly unranked ->silver 4. and when i climb to plat this season and i say exactly the same things (zed is stupid OP and has an oppressive laning phase and is only directly counter picked. RoA and Zhonyas are a wasted effort, its better to build your regular build so you can put out whatever it is your champion does) ((as an example). (currently gold 3 with plat 5 MMR, so it'll just take more games, not actual improvement.)

i'll still be ridiculed.

do you know why? because the majority of the player base are assassin mains, and the majority of the voters here are actually grade kids, namely the "xbox live generation" and what do young teens do? rant... whine... and complain. its just not in them to be nice. (not yet anyways)

Jbels4/16/2016, 3:35:07 AM3 votes

Sky called, he wants his really fucking bad joke back

Athenes Lulu4/16/2016, 3:00:07 AM3 votes

You're right at most terms about the majority of QQers being all below gold 4...

But what about those guys who are above that rank, and says the same things? Oho, then it instantly becomes a "proven fact". Yes, they are the exceptions, but it's more coming from the high elos complaining then the lower division players bandwagoning that opinion.

Prozzak4/16/2016, 2:17:16 AM2 votes

Unfortunately people who are not good at the game (or at least not good in enough areas of the game) vastly outnumber the amount of people who are so those people will be heard more in the forums.

You can pretty much tell how the forums are full of sheep by how the topics change about who is op as soon as something gets played in LCS or gets popular due to a reddit video when it was considered absolute trash and people wanted buffs for the champ a week before.

ZephyrDrake4/16/2016, 3:10:55 AM2 votes

you do know people have smurf accounts all over the place right? most people don't bother posting on their real account

Daxanater4/16/2016, 3:12:00 AM2 votes

Can I actually see this "Research" of yours?

GenghisEmo4/16/2016, 3:32:58 AM2 votes

Skill doesnt always equal spamming OPs.

But first lets define skill... skill isnt "skill". It is Game Knowledge and strategic depth, and mechanical ability (reaction speed, kinesthetic awareness of digits/fingers, eye coordination).

So you got to either be great at both, or you strike a good balance between both.

And most great players i know do complain, but they dont go on boards, they are too good for that XD. But even they agree changes to LoL have turned them away from LoL.

EndlessSorcerer4/16/2016, 3:54:31 AM2 votes

There are a few Gold+ people who are or used to be posting QQ threads pretty frequently.

Off the top of my head, two of the most frequent are/were Yenn (NA) and Akatsuki Deidara (EUW), but there are many others.

Not to devalue what you said, but the issue is less a matter of a player's skill and more related to the player's mindset.

If you refuse to admit that you are making mistakes or to adapt against your opponents, you are going to continue losing to them. This generally leads to the player thinking that a champion is overpowered even when there is simple counter-play against them.

There are people who refuse to learn, admit fault or adapt their playstyle at all levels; it's simply a matter of mindset and degree.

Çhåryzård4/16/2016, 3:47:25 AM1 votes

Please tell me you aren't generalizing a whole chunk of people.

Every single person no matter what rank has the right to post about the game. Rank =/= intelligence.

A lot of us in silver-gold iv are decent people who enjoy the game and are working on climbing. Are there idiots too who do nothing but QQ? Yea, but not all of us are. The nice players who are working on improving and climbing have a decent understand of the game and the champions in it. Your rank does not give you the right to talk down to lower players and tell them what they can and can't do.

The Deckowner4/16/2016, 4:06:36 AM1 votes

So you searched the rank for every author of every single post in game play section about champion/item/league/dynamic qurue in the past few days?

I don't believe u.

TheHurricaneGamr4/16/2016, 2:57:19 AM1 votes

I completely agree with this. As a top lane main, I play carries (Gangplank andFiora) and tanks (Shen andPoppy). Although it is nice to play the champ you want to play (In my case, a carry), sometimes, in champ select, I'll see what my team needs. Does my team need hard lockdown? Pick Poppy . What if I want to get my lanes ahead, but still be sufficiently tanky? Pick Shen. If I can play a carry though, Gangplank is my preferred choice as I have more experience in him and is much more safe compared to Fiora. Although if I go against someone like a Darius or Nasus , I pick Illaoi , as she wins post 6.