Should banning your own teammates pick be allowed poll.

dethkyle·Oct 9, 2016·1 votes·524 views

I'm tired of trolls banning my picks or people doing it for some bullshit reason. Oh x champion is op and your not first pick. Champion x is weak so I don't want it on my team. It makes me not wanna play with the team. If the enemy team bans my pick I don't care but it's feels bad when your own team does it. First of all at any given time there are more than 6 op champs and every champ can be op if you play them right. That's just my opinion on the topic what do you guys think?

12 Comments

aspects1Oct 9, 20163 votes

at any given time, there may be one champ that is a must pick/ban (like yas 2 patches ago, hecarim a while before that, sona when her ult was buffed, and warwick when challenging smite first came out.), and if your last pick and you cant trade to get him, i think your team would prefer he being banned than risk him going to the enemy team.

EvilUnicornLordOct 9, 20161 votes

Yas 2 patches ago?

More like "until they nerf him again".

dethkyleOct 9, 20161 votes

Lol I see yas kinda like lee sin. Yes he's pretty much always good but if you know how to play him right. With both of those champs it seems like people are either really good with them or really bad with them.

dethkyleOct 9, 20161 votes

I get what your saying, but my counter arguement to that is this; In high elo most people have every champion in the game, and in low elo you can win with every pick. Now you may say what about normals, but they it's not like diamond players are playing normals with bronze players they try to keep normals pretty even in what elo everyone is. Though it's nice to hear what other people have to say on the topic.

aspects1Oct 9, 20161 votes

new players who may have played other mobas before coming to league may be diamond with very few champs. i dont have a statistic, but im pretty sure less than 20% of the playerbase has every champion

dethkyleOct 9, 20161 votes

I guess I can see that being the case. Though higher elo players usually have at least more champs than lower elo players do. The reason for that being either they played the game longer or they do better even when they lose so they get more ip than the lower elo players. Though you might be right on that since I haven't seen any statistics on it. It's just more the high elo players I know have all the champs since they've been playing the game for most of the seasons. Though i guess how quickly you get all the champs also depends on if you value them more than getting all the runes. I did the math one time for how much ip all the runes are and it's well over 300k that doesn't include buying the rune pages. Maxing those out as well is probably like 400k

Void NargacugaOct 9, 20162 votes

It's a necessary evil sadly. At least that is my take on it.

What I mean is this: Does the final pick want a pick/ban champion and you don't want the enemy to have it? Though I'd apologize to them and try to explain that I don't want to risk the enemy team to get that champion.

KVbqbFsC8eOct 9, 20162 votes

Absolutely. You should be able to ban whichever champion you want.

DrCyanideOct 9, 20162 votes

Not being able to ban hovers creates a far more toxic environment. You'd end up with people choosing Support, then hovering the most OP champion of the patch (or a hard counter to another player's hover) and refusing to move off of the hover until someone traded them roles. Currently, you can ignore that troll, saying "No, you've got to play Support" and ban the champion anyway, but if you couldn't then that situation happens.

New champions should be automatically banned in Ranked, and until they are I'm going to ban them for the first few weeks. Don't care if you hovered them, they don't belong here yet.

specter424Oct 9, 20161 votes

So if my last pick teammate wants the op champ of the patch I shouldn't be allowed to ban it even if there is no way they will get it except through trading?

Baby GhoulOct 9, 20161 votes

I only ban a teammates pick with people who try to play a newly released champion in ranked. No sir, not in my games with my LP on the line. You go to blind pick or draft for that.

I really, really dislike people who play weak champions in ranked, and the majority of the time this comes from top lane, but it's their choice and you just hope that you can end the game quickly. I hope you know though, that people do view you as a burden even if they aren't jerks about it. Making the game an uphill battle is just a sad choice, but it is your choice and who knows maybe you're the exception. 9 times out of 10 the laning phase ends in a predictable fashion in my experience.

You should realize that in ranked you're not just only playing for yourself, but your team. There are certain champions I reserve for ranked because I play them well and they are in decent spots to compete with the rest of the meta champions. I always keep up with the patch notes as well.

As for last picks, I don't really mind them because there isn't anyone currently that I feel I cannot deal with. From patch to patch that changes though, however usually someone 1st pick or 2nd pick is willing to switch with them. If you're going to do that just make sure you have a wide variety of champions to switch. If the enemy first pick gets them, then that rarely bothers me because there are only a few times this season where a champion has been totally out of control. If your main falls into that category, then I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a ban.

dethkyleOct 9, 20161 votes

Ok I can see what you're saying with ranked, but do you think normals should be different? Normals is where you're supposed to try out new champs and new builds, but if even your teammates are. Banning your picks it makes it harder to try out those things. Well it's nice to hear your opinion on the topic. Though I guess the majority people dissagree with me which is fine it's just nice to hear what everyone has to say about it.