Which tanks ( if any ) really benefit from attack speed?

Epheamenne·1/26/2016, 3:19:30 PM·1 votes·2,865 views

Dear Boards,

I know that a lot of tanks take Attack Speed Marks when they enter the jungle but which tanks really benefit from attack speed? One could argue Malphite because his attack speed allows his AoE auto attacks to clear waves swiftly too and not just camps. One could also argue Amumu given his auto attacks reduce magic resistance which means he and his team to do more damage. I want to know your opinions though; which tanks ( if any ) really benefit from attack speed and why?

Best regards, Epheamenne. [slayer-jinx-wink]

35 Comments

Ramnight1/26/2016, 3:28:33 PM5 votes

AS really is only necessary to make their clear a little faster. Chogath Shen Volibear Trundle

Honestly most tanks will benefit from quicker clears. Even Maokai TahmKench Definitely Malphite

Stars Shaper1/26/2016, 3:44:58 PM2 votes

Nautilus

LaughingMan111/26/2016, 3:27:41 PM2 votes

The only two that come to mind are Tham and Braum, and thats only because of Thams passive, and Braums Q.

Lovely Pants1/26/2016, 3:39:10 PM2 votes

Nautilus benefits from having a little more attack speed to reapply his passive more quickly to different targets and proc Titan's Wrath damage a little more often while his shield is still up.

Cho'Gath certainly likes any attack speed he can afford, though jungle Cho hasn't been much of a thing for a while.

Rammus definitely benefits from being able to auto attack more often on his taunted target.

And it really depends it if you consider any of the following tanks in any form: DrMundo Volibear Trundle I don't think I need to elaborate on them if you do.

That's really just saying who benefits additionally in their kits outside of clear speeds. Whatever early game advantage you can get from clearing faster is pretty much merit in itself though.

Blac Iyc1/26/2016, 3:55:50 PM1 votes

Nautilus item 3153 item 3006 item 1403 item 3124 item 3091

AMYS GRAVE1/26/2016, 4:09:02 PM1 votes

Attack speed is the best stat for clearing the jungle. The only exception to that is fiddlesticks. Every tank jungler benefits greatly from having AS to clear the jungle.

BIFF1/26/2016, 4:14:30 PM1 votes

Volibear is the only tank that really benefits from AS throughout the match in any scenario.

For every other tank the AS marks are usually used for a faster jungle clear on single target attack champs. Marks don't have any defensive runes worth using. and the other offensive options are ARpen or MAGpen or flat dmg. ARpen and MAGpen are very champ specific. Flat dmg runes are only beneficial early game.

DeloricVI1/26/2016, 4:18:33 PM1 votes

Other than what's been mentioned, I guess if you build Teemo as a tank, you could use some attack speed. Especially if you build an on-hit item, like so:

item 3022 item 3102 item 3143 item 3068 item 3085

That way, in team fights, you're super tanky, and slow everything with Frozen Mallet... Rylai's is also acceptable, but Frozen Mallet just gives straight up better tank stats, imo... even though the build path is still kind of crap. Not as much as it used to be, but still pretty bad.

Also, because of mentioning that Teemo can be built tanky (with mild success), I am prepping the flame shield.

KrugLyfe1/26/2016, 4:25:03 PM1 votes

Shyvana

Power Cosmic1/26/2016, 4:28:15 PM1 votes

Udyr Warwick XinZhao

minipuff1/26/2016, 4:32:56 PM1 votes

Gnar Sorta

MunchCrunchLunch1/26/2016, 4:45:39 PM1 votes

teemo tank is god. i literally 1v1 an illaoi and get out with 60% of my health with tank teemo.

Lugg1/26/2016, 4:59:16 PM1 votes

Shen does really well with AS.

Epheamenne1/26/2016, 5:02:30 PM1 votes

Wow! I got a lot of replies a lot quicker than I thought I would! Thank you all for being awesome! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] I appreciate you all taking the time to explain why it is important for clearing but can you tell me which tank, in your opinion, benefits the most from Attack Speed? So far it seems like Volibear and Kench do, maybe Udyr.

FooDang1/26/2016, 5:32:29 PM1 votes

I take attack speed marks for Tahm Kench top lane. Faster stacks for the gobbles and the passive on his ult gives autos more damage.

Kal Vas Flam1/26/2016, 5:34:42 PM1 votes

Basically any tank with AD scaling. Tanks like that usually have little CC, so you need a touch of offense to make yourself a threat. AP scaling tanks usually bring more team fight oriented gameplay.

Protokai1/26/2016, 5:37:44 PM1 votes

shen is great with attack speed because it allows you to proc your passive more

Ralanr1/26/2016, 5:47:46 PM1 votes

Shen was surprisingly more effective with some attack speed items than I expected. I'm not sure if it'll be the same with his rework.

Since Volibear has an ability that procss after a certain amount of hits, having an attack speed item doesn't hurt.

Even if a tank benefits from attack speed, it is better to build them tanky first.

L0ve Is Blue1/26/2016, 3:24:09 PM1 votes

None. Attack speed is an offensive stat. tanks are deffensive champs.

Sire Hippington1/26/2016, 10:01:39 PM1 votes

depends on what you consider tanks. Alistar Chogath Nautilus TahmKench Sion would probably be considered tanks by any definition and scale with AS. Alistar has tons of base ad and gains up to 90ad from his ult. Cho has alot base ad and gets 80+0.3ap aoe damage on each AA. Nauti also has alot base ad and gains 70+0.4 aoe damage per AA duering W. Tham can get his passive stacks faster and gets alot bonus damage on AAs from his ult-passive Sion has alot base ad and base AS, tends to built some ad, especilly titanic hydra scales well with AS, and his passive also gains alot dps from AS.

If only on runes, espeially for jungle, Amumu Gragas Malphite Maokai Sejuani , as they all get a greatly increased clear early on and AS also speeds up the attackanimation which can help alot to utilize their AA-based skills in fights. Sejus W-AA is rather clunky for example, but with some AS you can use it more easily for the AA-reset adfter Q. With mao, i often have the problem that people run out of my range duering the passive animation, denying my heal. More AS speeds up that animation and prevents such situations. Nauti has the same issues as mao, just with a even slower AA-animation.

Beuhlakor1/26/2016, 3:24:09 PM1 votes

none

and i'm dead serious about it

10Tickler1/26/2016, 3:25:56 PM1 votes

The reasoning behind this is that Most purely tank champions lack any sort of ACTUAL Aoe damage. Malphite has his E and W, sure, but they don't scale except with AP and some Armor (I think, idunno). Sejuani's W Tickles, mostly, so on and so forth. Attack Speed Runes help them do MORE single-target Damage QUICKER, clearing camps a little faster, and hopefully, keeping up with the likes of Yi, Xin and Trick2Gdyr

Bonipherus1/26/2016, 3:35:17 PM1 votes

Shyvana