Stats on 5.16 and 5.17 (Adc's are not weak)

ks916·9/8/2015, 12:41:22 PM·17 votes·3,777 views

Saw this on Reddit thought it was pretty interesting. If you think adc's are weak you should take a look at this. ADC damage keeps up with mid lane damage, both which are the highest in the game. Also if you look at the dmg chart you will see that adc's have very high early game damage. Would say adc's are pretty balanced to everyone complaining about them so much lately. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3k1iw6/patch_516_and_517_statistics/

Gonna edit in the damage graph here, but I suggest you go to the main reddit link I posted, has a ton more information. http://i.imgur.com/HYuLzK3.png

69 Comments

LankPants9/8/2015, 2:24:47 PM16 votes

I don't understand why people think ADCs are weak, they're the only class who have been 100% needed since S1. I remember MonteChristo mentioning a while back there have only been 4 competitive games since S1 finals where one team played with no ADC.

Critmaster Garen9/8/2015, 3:00:26 PM6 votes

its also to note, that mid laners (at least mages) usually deal a lot of area of effect damage, while adc deal all this damage as more focused single target damage, effectively giving them higher kill potential even with the same overall damage values.

it makes a difference if youre dealing 400 damage to 5 people or 2 shot a squishy for 2000 damage with 2 auto attacks because you just crit twice in a row.

DogIsGod9/8/2015, 3:06:31 PM5 votes

Only retards who can't play say ADCs are weak. lmao

disregardable9/8/2015, 12:51:27 PM5 votes

He says on average that ADCs are carrying just as many games as mid and top, but if you take a look at the chart he provided

http://i.imgur.com/Pg0c2s9.png

Excluding Varus and Kog'maw (mid laners), the first ADC is 108th rated ability to carry. He also agreed that ADCs aren't doing any more late game damage than mid laners, despite having numerous other weaknesses to make up for the late game "carry".

Edit: If I were to guess why their "carry coefficients" are on average similar, it'd be because there are SIGNIFICANTLY MORE top and mid laners than ADCs. The Lulu Mids are holding down the Viktors to a level that is equivalent to ADCs, whose stats (damage, gold, kda, everything) rarely vary by more than a few hundred. But that's a guess.

Professor Ward9/8/2015, 12:43:23 PM3 votes

its not the fact that they cant deal damage, its that other lanes can deal the same at a safer rate, only reason top and jung arent there is because around 50% of the time a build forgoes damage, whereas adcs ALWAYS build damage i dont think adcs are weak i just think it takes more skill to be effective. Is there anyway to find those same stats at silver/bronze? because ill bet mid takes over from there

Penns9/8/2015, 1:15:32 PM3 votes

Ok so champs sololey made and built to do damage... do damage? Also champs that have 2 lane opponents instead of one have high early game damage? Didnt know that topkek.

Hyrum Graff9/8/2015, 3:13:53 PM2 votes

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Saw this on Reddit thought it was pretty interesting. If you think adc's are weak you should take a look at this. ADC damage keeps up with mid lane damage, both which are the highest in the game. Also if you look at the dmg chart you will see that adc's have very high early game damage. Would say adc's are pretty balanced to everyone complaining about them so much lately. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3k1iw6/patch_516_and_517_statistics/

Gonna edit in the damage graph here, but I suggest you go to the main reddit link I posted, has a ton more information.

ftfy

VDc0zCqe0w9/8/2015, 3:51:26 PM2 votes

This graph literally says adcs carry less than midlaners and output less damage even when they are supposed to outdamage midlaners (aka lategame).

If this doesn't say they are bad i don't know what else would say that.

You also forget that 1vs1 midlane are more difficult and based on burst most of the times while 2vs2 botlane are based mostly around DPS (unless you got something really silly such as Graves-Leona), so most of the early damage probably comes from that.

Also i love how do you think doing damage = carrying lol

ADC is a Meme9/8/2015, 9:00:21 PM1 votes

I normally just view boards but, I think the mass complaints aren't geared towards the role being bad, it's more so that a large majority of the adc roster is pretty meh, the rise of vayne and other hyper carries shows this quite well.

They either have a brutal laning or don't scale well, leaving only a few adcs as "viable", where as other lanes have multiple picks where said champion are great.

I get why this is, but it's kind of annoying.

Sightless669/9/2015, 1:26:00 AM1 votes

. Also if you look at the dmg chart you will see that adc's have very high early game damage.

There's a problem with drawing strong conclusions from this data. AD carries doing less damage early on could mean nothing for the same reason that junglers having very low damage could mean nothing. It's not the champions, it's the lanes they're in. ADCs face two enemies, so they can pass off a higher total amount of damage just because there are more targets. If we get into a fight to the death in bottom lane, I have to do more total damage to kill the enemy than a mid laner or top laner has to. It would mean way, way more if there was a comparison between AD carries in solo lanes as compared to other champions in solo lanes.