other than game knowledge their laning is gonna go the same and their teamfighting will probably become the same way as well.
so how exactly do these champs not carry people who themselves dont belong in that elo they are winning in?
ive seen maokai and janna mains play a different champ like thresh or riven and go 0-10 .
Decision making is stronger than skill with a champion.
other than game knowledge their laning is gonna go the same and their teamfighting will probably become the same way as well.
so how exactly do these champs not carry people who themselves dont belong in that elo they are winning in?
ive seen maokai and janna mains play a different champ like thresh or riven and go 0-10 .
You really are the whiniest person on these boards.
Decision-making would make the difference. Maokai always has a mediocre win rate despite his power because you need to think with him.
And I don't get this sentence: "ive seen maokai and janna mains play a different champ like thresh or riven and go 0-10" at all. Of course a Janna player would do terribly on Riven if they're not also a Riven main - Riven is hard as hell and could not be more different from the most defensive, peely support in the game. Why would you ever expect a defensive mage support player to be adept at an extremely aggressive fighter, who also happens to require extreme dedication to learn? A Riven main would do horribly on Orianna if they randomly picked her up but that wouldn't mean the Riven player can't play hard champions, it just means the Riven player is naturally doing badly on a champion that isn't their usual style and is also very difficult to learn.
It'd be a more valid comparison if you said "I've seen Janna players try to pick up Nami and do terribly even after spending loads of time trying to learn her", but Riven is too different a champion to the champions you listed and most people do terribly on her until they have a fair few Riven games under their belt.
Skill.
i have to ask. whats the difference between a silver maokai/renekton and a diamond one?
There are a million things to concentrate on in LoL. Better players are better at doing more of those than worse players.
I also feel like you're confusing using 5 abilities well with mastering the millions of things in LoL.
Knowing how a Q works isn't going to help with knowing where the enemy jungler is, how to effectively trade, when to trade, how much you can get away with doing, when to push, when to freeze, how to get amazing CS, resource management, when to back, when to roam, when to team fight, were to pressure other lanes, how to push your advantage, how to recover from a disadvantage...
Silver players have a general idea of these things, but are pretty fuzzy on the specifics. Diamond players will have a clearer idea of when and how to do many of these things.
whats the difference between a silver maokai/renekton and a diamond one?
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game knowledge is actually a big deal. Today I went up against a silver fiora as cait. She whined the whole time while screwing herself over and over again. I didn't even kill her most of the time I just abused the free minion control because she didn't possess basic game knowledge. I lost every duel we had except the few where she made silver-ish mistakes I could exploit. I don't even play cait that often.
Guys, do not waste too much time on players asking these question in the future. A lot of lower tier players do not see the significance of each decision and micro parts of the gaming that they just assume they're just as good. Obviously, they are not even good enough, to understand that they are not good enough.
and the differnce between a silver 
and a diamond , is that diamond nid actaulyl have the mechanics to not get executed in the jungle. or rather not be at such low HP that the enemy jungler can invade you and kill you with 1 auto.
It all comes down to snowball knowledge, matchup knowledge and general understanding of the game. I expect a silver player to not know shit about what's the point in freezing a lane, how to do it, when to do it, why, how to zone out someone of minions, how to get better map awareness, how to snowball one's team, when to roam, why, what is the proper way to get objectives, get a splitpush going, understanding how the wave of minions work out, understanding why a dive is efficient and when, when it is not, when a tradekill is worth and when it isn't, and, but that's quite a gimmick, a diamond would be better mechanically (but who cares, the other things are much more important). Difference between diamond and silver is game knowledge. People who think this is all linked to mechanics are usually low elo or arrogant good mechanical players around plat which can't climb because they start lacking in the game knowledge department.
