Fizz needs to be nerfed

Lisous·1/14/2017, 4:35:47 AM·30 votes·1,257 views

In all of my time playing league, I have seen many an overpowered champion. Champs that can live through anything, kill an enemy in under a second, and many other things. Nothing compares to Fizz. His abilities make him invincible, allow him to dodge pretty much anything, and have him kill anyone he wants at any time. I have not seen a single decent fizz be beaten, and only those who do not know how to play lose as him. And he does insane damage. It's absolutely ridiculously. Fizz needs longer cooldowns and less damage scaling if he is going to stay as he is. I've seen one too many games where he absolutely dominated either our side or the enemy. It's not fun to play with or against him. He has been buffed over and over. It now does more damage, gets bigger and knocks up for longer with travel distance, and passes through all minions. It makes any match with him in it unreasonably unfair. I don't want to be rude, but Riot needs to get it together and balance their champions, because this is ridiculous.

26 Comments

Dracocrash1/14/2017, 12:57:17 PM10 votes

I have reason to beleive, this guy has created multiple accounts and upvoted himself. Seriously, stop that.

bbQsauçe1/14/2017, 8:33:48 AM9 votes

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DISClPLE1/14/2017, 10:20:03 AM9 votes

Fizz needs to be nerfed...I'm gonna guess you are bronze and a fizz just went 20 and 0 or something in your last game. There are a lot bigger problems than fizz. Such as Darius, Syndra, Poppy, Camile etc.

RexSaur1/14/2017, 5:39:43 AM8 votes

Is this a troll thread? Lmao

the Anarchit3cht1/14/2017, 4:42:56 AM8 votes

I think his rework largely made him healthier. He doesn't get damage amp on his ult and he needs to hit it at range to maximize its damage. No more Q into unmissable point bank R followed by W procs and an E if he doesnt need it to escape. The thing with him before is he would q towards you, ult, his q would hit and he'd empowered aa you with damage amp from his r. He doesn't do that anymore. THe most difficult thing about him now is troll pole. I find that most of his ability to instagib a target and escape has been redcued. It works significantly better on ARAM where things are more hectic, but it's not nearly the problem it was.

rtbf761092711/14/2017, 11:08:45 AM7 votes

He's super weak right now with a low winrate but also a low play rate. Your post is mindless hyperbole drivel that could be deleted without a second thought. Don't confuse disliking a champion for them being too strong, it's childish

Champs that can live through anything

He is just as squishy as any other melee mage

kill an enemy in under a second

His w passive needs to cook for 2 seconds before he can pop the mark, which leads to 2.5 to 3 second kill times which is on the slow side of assassins

He has been buffed over and over.

His e cooldown was repeatedly nerfed, along with his base damage and % missing hp damage. Which is now removed and overall weaker. After his rework his winrate went down considerably

It now does more damage, gets bigger and knocks up for longer with travel distance, and passes through all minions.

Only the max distance ult does more damage, but it used to have +20% damage to all his other sources and that was removed in his rework. It always went through minions

BoilTheOil1/14/2017, 7:56:48 AM6 votes

seriously?

Snowman Arc1/14/2017, 6:09:14 AM6 votes

The only thing that is unhealthy about Fizz right now is his ulti. And not the size of it, that's ok. But the way it attaches to people, even when they are seemingly out of range of the initial cast. That's beyond idiotic.

Now, how to play vs Fizz. Again, we have the typical bronze mentality "oh Fizz can dodge everything and one shot everything". Oh please, Leblanc, Vladimir, Zed can also dodge everything. One shot? Rengar? Kata? They can also one shot. The thing people need to realize is that the game doesn't start and end at the laning phase. Just because you screwed up and got all-in by Fizz and died isn't the end of the world. There is still the mid game and the late game, where Fizz isn't as strong as you think. The fact that a squishy champion has to enter into the entire enemy team to deal any meaningful damage means that he is super vulnerable to CC, damage and death. He falls off hard late game, and his only saving grace is maybe he can find a good flanking potential, where he won't waste his E to enter, and use it as an escape or as a damage tool. Same for champions like Riven, Katarina, Zed etc. All squishy melee champions who have to first wait for all the CC to be blown out before doing anything meaningful.

As far as the laning phase goes. Fizz isn't as annoying as you think. He struggles way too hard in the early levels, where you will either sacrifice cs or his life, if you play correctly. Also, since you know that Fizz has a strong all-in at level 6, why aren't you buying a Negatron Cloak / Hexdrinker? Seriously, this tilts me off the face of the earth. Everytime someone complains about a champion, I see their itemization, which doesn't change no matter the enemy, the state of the game and what not. "Oh, I'm playing Lux so I'll get Morello first no matter what". Goes back at level 5, buys Lost Chapter, gets all-ined by FIzz at level 6. 'OH MY GOD NERF FIZZ SO BROKEN NO COUNTERPLAY", when you could have just bought a Negatron Cloak and just nullify most of his damage. Having an Exhaust is also really helpful.

Seriously, people need to be smarter. A champion all-ins you at 6? Maybe build more defensively. Maybe buy a rune page where you have more MR + HP. Maybe sacrifice some CS and trust that in the late game, you will be better than him.

General Esdeath 1/14/2017, 7:29:45 AM6 votes

If Fizz is the worst you saw, you haven't been here long.

Sckullzz1/14/2017, 7:44:40 AM6 votes

Fizz is fine... His damage is in line with other assassins. They already nerfed him by increasing the cooldown of his E troll poll. The also nerfed his w. What more do you want?

MunchCrunchLunch1/14/2017, 5:52:10 AM5 votes

should he get buffed I mean hes pretty shit in the exahust meta.

Supreme Senpai691/14/2017, 8:44:20 AM4 votes

He's cancer but not in need of nerfs. Anything with a lot of mobility or untargetability will be inherently toxic, but that doesn't make it necessarily strong

THE RlVER KlNG1/14/2017, 2:38:32 PM2 votes

Fizz's ult is a little overrtuned right now but he is (sigh) balanced for the most part.

MrHaZeYo1/14/2017, 7:31:28 AM1 votes

I mean I'd hope most asassin's could rekt Low Elo.

lGIaurunGl1/14/2017, 1:01:42 PM1 votes

There are 26 fizz mains