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Dragon side bot lane vision dilema? Tips? Thanks

LadyDevimon·10/17/2017, 8:33:43 AM·1 votes·279 views

....with dangerous tri-bush?

Say you ward it. Then your support. Then you . Repeat. The wards do not last long enough for you to be safe in the bot lane. Especially on this side, even if you freeze in the middle or closer to your turret, what stop the enemy jg from coming bot lane at lvl 3 for a double kill? I feel it is safer for the toher side to be pushed in because of the hills before the river and also safer for them to be pushing because of the tri bush by the river that offers an escape. If you're on drake side, how do pros get through the laning phase lvls 1-6? What to do when you run out of wards and your waves are frozen middle lane- or even further up the Baron side of the map?
It's not even safe enough to stay back and concede farm to soak up the XP. You have to be close to dying enemy minions.
Is there advice you can give me on ward timings? I just feel that even if you use your wards conservatively and ward tribush and another one of the lane bushes, it just doesn't add up.

i've been watching worlds. Call it cheese, professional mistakes, or aggressive early ganking --- but I have seen games in the bot lane where even early on they are susceptible to this weakness because they did not have vision and both the support and bot where symmetric to the other bot and support --- yet an early level jg gank or top teleport scores a lead.

No boots, no utlimates, someone help me out i feel stressed when I'm 12 creeps ahead of enemy adc and yet lack of vision gives them the edge even though i'm not pushing them in.

Much appreciated.

2 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer10/17/2017, 8:38:01 AM1 votes

Most junglers likely aren't going to gank that early, and even if they do, likely there's not enough damage or CC to get a kill off of. Sure you might have to blow a summoner, but that's not that bad.

Zerdun10/17/2017, 9:01:43 AM1 votes

being dragon side bot lane means that you initially need to see where the jungler started. if he started blue than it's extremely unlikely that he will gank bottom since his pathing would set up for a gank top or mid. and then you can ward accordingly.

As a support i usually try my best to keep the tribush by my tower pinked or warded conventionally (hell even having the blue trinket from your adc on it is nice) while maintaining wards in the river whenever we go to push into the tower. This general rule of thumb should also be only loosely followed because a lot of times you also receive tells if the enemy team that the jungler is coming. If they are taking unnecessary damage to goad you into diving (obvious mistakes made) the jungler may be nearby and you should ward up. Another example of this is when the enemy team is clearly not in a position to act aggressive and they start looking for trades. It's all about reading the combination of player reaction, alongside understanding the timings of conventional ganks.