OP Release Champs

Xator12·2/13/2017, 12:33:54 AM·3 votes·1,984 views

Whenever riot releases a new champ it is highly anticipated by many and every PBE video you watch on YouTube says the champ is busted and OP, why? Why not just balance the champ before release on live servers? It's because of the CASH GRAB. Anyone who hasn't been playing for years has no IP lying around to get the new high mobility, high damage, everything you want in a champion kind of champion. And so they succumb to PAYING for champions..... which get nerfed in the next couple patches.

8 Comments

Mecha MaIphite2/13/2017, 12:41:20 AM5 votes

Can we just stop with the whole "omg rito did x just for moneh" thing? This game is free to play, spending is completely optional. And PBE is a terrible measure of balance; remember what happened when Riot listened to PBE players about buffing reworked champs? Skarner Fiora

And besides, what's wrong with a company trying to make money?

Sugar Momma2/13/2017, 12:54:55 AM1 votes

A lot of newly released champions were released incredibly weak, so your theory is false. Taliyah TahmKench Kled Azir Illaoi all required buffs very soon after release (some becoming OP at various times as a result).

Fondling Gems2/13/2017, 12:58:06 AM1 votes

Because as PBE testers we are a small community who only get 1-2 weeks to test out a champion. What many don't see is that we have to do a lot of this in Draft mode and a bunch of people ban the new champ too. For the WW rework we literally didn't have blind pick, only ranked draft, and he got banned in roughly 80% of the games.

There just isn't enough time or data to get a good feel for balance or test strats and synergy.

Automated Riven2/13/2017, 1:08:28 AM1 votes

easily 50 percent of champions are released in need of buffs anyway. people like you just claim that riot releases them all as broken and overpowered because you just ran out of things to complain about. list of the last two years of champion releases. AurelionSol was released rather strong but only after about 100 games played. Camille admittedly was broken on release Ivern was pretty weak on release and after some buffs is in a good spot Jhin was released and buffed and bug fixed before he was nerfed after. Kled imo has never been strong but for some reason has seen nerfs/buffs intended to shift power. All in all a rather balanced if not slightly weak champion on release Taliyah was release was interesting. her damage potential was super high but she paid for it by having a very unique way to get it off. she wasnt super strong on release seeing some buffs right away and then some kit changes before she skyrocked into being op. Bard was release quite weak seeing several rounds of buffs before he was even played. Ekko was just a problem child, was to strong with ap, then to strong with tank and too weak with ap, and it took almost a full year to get rid of the tank build, now he seems to be fine tho, maybe a little weak still. Illaoi still isnt stong if you know that fighting her duing her 8 second ult is a bad thing. TahmKench saw some buffs and bug fixes right away before she was eventually too strong and nerfed into oblivion Kindred was release quite weak. saw several buffs so much so that they was too strong and then was nerfed again.

all in all we see that about 6 champions were released really strong (i am giving taliyah the benifit of the doubt cause I believe she was in the same boat as sol) and I am stretching it for jhin and kled because kled did see nerfs right away and i believe that jhins buffs right away weren't the cause of him being really strong. And on the flip side we have 5 who were released weak. taliyah and kled could swap either way but thats right around 50% of champions who are released weak vs strong.

Snowman Arc2/13/2017, 1:23:18 AM1 votes

wah wah, I want to have everything this game has to offer for free, wah wah fk Riot they are my slaves and don't need my money wah wah.

CancerBasedGod2/13/2017, 1:26:00 AM1 votes

If you're having an issue with Camille Singed is only 450 IP and is almost impossible to lose to Camille with... If you're complaining about WW, well he is 450 IP soooo, yeah cash grab...

Nameless Voice2/13/2017, 1:34:54 AM1 votes

You need to apply Hanlon's Razor.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity,"

Intentionally making the champions OP on release for a cash grab would require far, far more competence than Riot's design and balance teams actually have.