Champions With easy difficulties.

TheDarkDoomLord·Mar 17, 2016·2 votes·697 views

I have no problem with them being in the game, as every game with a high skill cap needs some easy things to get you going. But as I've noticed, champions with higher difficulty ratings in-game like Syndra or Katarina, are very powerful, but only if they have a lot of items, while champions like Zyra can one-shot you with 2 doran's rings and a blasting wand. It seems to me like if you just go full-tank, full AP/AD on harder champs, they will fail most of the time, but on champs with lower skill they are really powerful. What I'm saying here is that champs with low skill levels can do well late game with only about 2-4 completed items, but if a champs has a skill level of about 7 or above, then they will need like 4-6 items to do well. Now I admit that if a hard champ is played near to perfection, they will be as strong as a easy champ, but that really doesn't matter most of the time. Here is an example: A while ago, Faker did a 1v1 zed vs. zed when he was at 1/3 life, and won because he was able to dodge all the skillshots. But if he was up against a draven, the draven would just click on him and kill him because he was at low life.

13 Comments

MasterSomethingMar 17, 20161 votes

Zyra doesn't one shot you. She quickly bursts you down, yes, but that's after she's unloaded her full combo and two of plants on you. And that will only kill if you are horribly squishy.

TheDarkDoomLordMar 17, 20161 votes

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Zyra doesn't one shot you. She quickly bursts you down, yes, but that's after she's unloaded her full combo and two of plants on you. And that will only kill if you are horribly squishy.

I played a game today against a zyra that was literally 21/0 and one shotted me as poppy with 2500 Hp and maw.

MasterSomethingMar 17, 20161 votes

Link to the match? I won't believe it until I see it.

TheDarkDoomLordMar 20, 20161 votes

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Link to the match? I won't believe it until I see it.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2127578445/228009396

MasterSomethingMar 20, 20161 votes

You have Hexdrinker here, not Maw, but irregardless I'd be surprised if she didn't one shot you with both of your builds.

MeurtrierrMar 17, 20161 votes

There's no sush thing imo.

Champions that have easy difficulties are just as easy to counter or outplay because they're easy to understand even for your opponent.

For the draven vs zed example, who's dumb enough to go all in on an ADC if the victory rate is questionable? Zed got a way better mobility than Draven. This mean draven can't run away from the fight while zed can do it easily. Just save your mobility spell as zed and if you don't win, you don't feed at the very least.

To value a champ's difficulty based on their one on one capability in lol is not a good way to look at it.

TheDarkDoomLordMar 17, 20161 votes

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There's no sush thing imo.

Champions that have easy difficulties are just as easy to counter or outplay because they're easy to understand even for your opponent.

For the draven vs zed example, who's dumb enough to go all in on an ADC if the victory rate is questionable? Zed got a way better mobility than Draven. This mean draven can't run away from the fight while zed can do it easily. Just save your mobility spell as zed and if you don't win, you don't feed at the very least.

To value a champ's difficulty based on their one on one capability in lol is not a good way to look at it.

If you had looked it up, the other zed had homeguard so he wasn't gonna get away. BTW try counter playing a 3000 HP garen who has titanic hydra for 300 aoe damage in one aa.

Zero Skill TankMar 17, 20161 votes

A while ago, Faker did a 1v1 zed vs. zed when he was at 1/3 life, and won because he was able to dodge all the skillshots. But if he was up against a draven, the draven would just click on him and kill him because he was at low life.

Likeways, low HP Draven would die to Zed not being able to do shit about it, because he doesn't have bajillion dashes and blinks to dodge stuff. I don't see any problem there.

Than again, how is Draven easy?

TheDarkDoomLordMar 17, 20161 votes

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Likeways, low HP Draven would die to Zed not being able to do shit about it, because he doesn't have bajillion dashes and blinks to dodge stuff. I don't see any problem there.

Than again, how is Draven easy?

All there is to Draven is catching axes.

SP DodgecityMar 17, 20161 votes

harder than you think, because good draven players can literally juggle... like 2 or 3 axes in the air...

TheDarkDoomLordMar 17, 20161 votes

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harder than you think, because good draven players can literally juggle... like 2 or 3 axes in the air...

They follow your movement, so it's easy to catch, and people say just aim your skillshot cc at the location where the axes are gonna be, and hell be dead, but the hitboxes are so dumb that you could catch one with a morgana binding on top of it.

Zero Skill TankMar 17, 20161 votes

And Zed is all about swapping shadows.

Teridax68Mar 17, 20161 votes

I feel there's a lot of distortion, unintended or otherwise, going on in the OP. The main point you're making is that harder champions feel like they need more items to deploy as much power as easier champions: isn't that just because they're harder to use, and therefore more difficult to succeed at given the same baseline amount of skill? You bring up an example of Draven killing a champion at low health with an autoattack as if it were somehow exceptional, in spite of the fact that a) Draven is a marksman, and marksmen deal heavy autoattack damage by nature, b) low-health enemies are liable to die from most things anyway, and c) Draven in particular is especially good at dealing heavy damage with each basic attack. Picking Draven as an example of an "easy" champion may not have been the best choice either, considering how his juggling mechanic makes him one of the most mechanically difficult marksmen by far.