Change Back Taliyah's W

Azereil·7/16/2016, 6:51:32 PM·29 votes·2,493 views

You gave us a dps drop for an "easier" w that literally doesn't do what I want it do when I use it. 300+ games of taliyah get me into plat and now suddenly I'm playing like I'm silver. And it's not the dps drop. I understand the argument for vector casting but you made the champ harder, more inconsistent, and dropped her dps in the name of "helping people who are bad at her play her better".

Please just revert it. Keep the dps if that's what you're after, but just admit you did something dumb give us back the old flip.

34 Comments

Legendskiller767/16/2016, 9:22:48 PM8 votes

There is a petition to get old W back. Realy hope riot will understand that they literraly destroyed her. Vector for a small size ability on a champ who need to move and be accurate is stupid as fuck and now many times the W dont work cos of range... Vector for rumble ulti ok : Big size ability, Static champion, can do it from a realy far position. Vector for Viktor laser ok : Big size ability, static champion, can do it ... you know what i mean ^^. And BTW, those 2 vector casting spell are not in the midle of a high risk/skillshot combo. The 2 click idea was good. And lockout can be reduced if you think its not smooth. And ofc, cancel the nerf and dont nerf Q and R like you want to do, taliyah is not strong. She is ok when she is well played but she is not competitive high elo/pro game so stop nerfing champions who are OK and let Irelia/jax and other shit destroy the game... You realy have to balance the game to let us have more strategy and picks :)

Tryficic Reborn7/16/2016, 8:56:22 PM8 votes

I used to main Taliyah (Yes, I fing did) until patch 6.14. You buttfed Taliyah and now I play her like I am a person who cannot hit the buttons of the keyboard. In the ONE CASE of A WHOLE GAME I hit a W right with magic, IT DEALT 0 DMG (Yes, I did it along with the E). BRING BACK THE OLD W. AT LEAST THE W.

inplane7/16/2016, 7:32:46 PM5 votes

There are just so many things wrong with the new W and current playstyle of Taliyah that no one knows where to start. I don't even know where to start anymore. I can write an entire essay on why the new changes were handled very poorly, but that wouldn't do anything because I'm not high ranked enough to justify anything.

Testificate7/17/2016, 12:36:44 AM4 votes

I just wish a rioter would comment on the change after most taliyah players actually got to use it. Zenon knew what he was doing when he made the champ, and somehow got swayed by people less engaged in the champions design. And i encourage everyone who cares about this to never stop mentioning this change, silence is the only way this change isn't reverted.

Jbels7/16/2016, 7:03:20 PM3 votes

"Just admit you did something dumb"? HA! I used to wish CertainlyT would admit that, but I've since learned that's never going to happen. Time and time again.

DeerGreenwood7/16/2016, 7:36:06 PM3 votes

+1 rep

Ultîma7/16/2016, 8:57:54 PM2 votes

Vector casting is easier for two reasons;

It's a pre-existing casting paradigm for spells that require directional input (Viktor, Rumble) It's faster than Taliyah's old casting style of Press-release-slide-press-release. Instead you just need to Press-slide-release. Combine that with the removal of spell lock-out on W, and you have a character that can combo her W-E much, much more consistently than ever before.

You might've been used to the old style but this is an amazing mechanical change for her that will probably allow her to see some pro-play.

ZapMyHeart7/18/2016, 7:27:14 AM2 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Taliyah

So Taliyah's winrate just dropped to 46%. If the new W was suppose to make it easier for her to picked up by unskilled players, why did it drop by such a huge amount? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Calabok7/16/2016, 9:16:36 PM1 votes

INoble KnightI7/17/2016, 6:37:52 PM1 votes

The new casting on her W is much better than the old way.

Calabok7/18/2016, 3:21:26 AM1 votes

but she's so cute and she hugs a fawn that's slipping on the ice. I think all she has to do is hug harder. [slayer-jinx-wink]

shalexade7/17/2016, 11:36:05 AM1 votes

I don't mind the vector cast, I've gotten used to it.

I don't mind the damage nerf- it was fair.

But the out-of-range-cast no longer casting at max range, I would love to see that come back. That was smooth.

InfinitexMortal7/16/2016, 10:27:09 PM1 votes

Please Riot listen to your playerbase for once! We didnt ask for this change and we dont want it so give us our TALI back!