why is brand supp allowed to do some much dmg without any items?

Hyped Riven·2/19/2018, 5:10:52 AM·11 votes·861 views

Never really understood why apcs are allowed to go bot and destroy you because their base dmg is so high like brand :/

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MohawkBird2/19/2018, 5:11:46 AM4 votes

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BobaFlautist2/19/2018, 5:51:44 PM2 votes

Any mage you care to name will 100-0 an ADC or non tank support with item 3136 item 3020 at level 6, Brand just specifically excels in 2v2s because of his ultimate and passive.

Infernape2/19/2018, 6:01:43 AM1 votes

If Riot wanted to nerf "support" brand, all they'd have to do is reduce his base damage and increase his scaling to offset the change.

Sir Fuzzi2/19/2018, 9:00:47 AM1 votes

I mean, it may just be that the damage is so much more reliable and supps all got their offensive prowess completely gutted around S4, when they traded it in for support scaling. The problem is damage is such a hot commodity, moreso than anything else. Because the potential to burst them down on about a 3 second timer exists, the potential must be met or you risk your enemies meeting it first.

I think Brand bot will just be replaced by the next best damage support-- Malzahar again, perhaps, since 6 is insta-kills with a carry behind his R. The problem is in the game, not the champions. Attacking Brand support will probably either replace him, or just teach Brand supps how to work around their problems. Then you're back to square one, really. Next we'll have Cassiopeia boy or something.

Perhaps it would be more prudent to address the overbearing effect that more damage has when compared to any other effect or option. The fact that a hard mid sell is coming bot lane to support should say something.

I have a theory about supports but it tends to be too long-winded.

Sire Hippington2/19/2018, 4:38:56 PM1 votes

it's not really without any items, spellthives offer quite some early poke and generates alot gold while brands core items are rather cheap. Though i still agree, his bases are to high and the ratios to low. Especially stupid was that they increased the passive **base **damage to compensate for DFT, which whas all AP-scaleing with nearly no base damage while even befor that his bases were already to high and scaleings to low...

Colton1472/19/2018, 4:48:18 PM1 votes

Zed Talon item 3134

Zoe item 3802

HouseOfSin2/19/2018, 11:31:15 PM1 votes

Because of the buff they gave him a few patches ago to his passive. 2% to 4% Max Health Damage, I think it was.

DragonShea2/19/2018, 5:59:00 AM1 votes

Fyre boi needs be higher scaling but shitting mid-late game damage if he doesn't have high AP.