As a support, I find it difficult to back because I fear leaving my teammates alone. Sometimes I can't back for 3+ minutes because someone is always going out and risking death. Could we have sightstone recharge a ward every two or three minutes?
I'm okay with even having to upgrade sightstone for this passive. Please Riot.
Yeah or maybe get ward charges when you clear a ward. this would reWARD (Kappa) the better supports
I can get behind this 100%, good to see the wind has changed on this one. If you had said this back in January you'd have been voted down to Hades. You really need a type of ward sustain or you end up backing whenever the ward net goes down. I find myself sacrificing getting my sweeper till almost objective phase so I can have more wards to work with. You can't roam safely from bot without leaving some wards for your partner. And if you play squishy mage sups you need at least one maybe even two on you to safely go up river (depending on enemy jungler and crab control). Being able to roam outside of a restricted 90-150 second window would be very nice for the early game. Because right now your plans to roam can get really dicey if you miss your golden time period for the wards. Leave too late and your bot lane can go dark before you can get back, leading to risky rewarding runs and face checking to get the vision back.
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I too have the struggle with the 3/4 wards. I need to go back and my team keeps playing aggressivly when i have zero wards left. Supports generally needs a buff to exp and gold.
I would give Ruby sightstone the yellow trinket recharge passive(recharge lowered depending on level). It really needs some love and it is the least upgraded item for me. First recall if i have more than 900 gold i get SS and it is upgraded last since it feels too little upgrade to delay your next item by 1000 gold.
"I am also sick of having to back just to jump over walls."
A paid trinket upgrade with 3 charge refill upon recalling? Take my money!
Though would be better and more logical to give it to tier 2 Sightstones like the ruby and the gold item combo versions.
ive gotten super lazy with warding since they changed sightstone and would welcome this change very much.
Wards are like plants right? What if near the end of there life span they grew seeds or something that you either can collect or activate to refresh the ward.
This seems fair. They did recently say that they're re-defining mana regen as a support stat because supports are supposed to have the most sustainable play patterns and not have to back as much. Maybe specify upgraded Sightstones (Ruby or Eyes)?
Riot is gutting AP mana regen so mages have to back occasionally. Supports are getting more mana regen, so they don't have to back as often. Supports have to back ever 1-2 minutes anyways to refill their sightstone. Yellow trinket recharges so you don't have to B. In the scope of upcoming changes. I'm going to guess this is working as intended.
In other news: AD's still get trinkets, mana regen, mana, damage, durability, and lifesteal. . . So long as they have something to hit. (Besides their own support, Kalista.)
Can we just get rid of sightstone and undo the yellow trink nerfs?
This is what ruby sight stone should of been
I think this is a really good idea. If they did implement sightstone re-charges then they would probably have to be longer than trinket by quite a bit. Also, they might not instantly recharge upon backing but instead recharge 4x, 6x, or 10x as fast...? I can't really say the best way after you back with it would be, but this is a good idea nonetheless. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Could sightstone also amplify gold gained from destroying a ward as a passive?
If you have one of the River bushes bot lane pink warded, and then you only use the first 2 wards to ward the other side of river and somewhere else and save the final ward when the River ward runs out, that is about 6 minutes of constant vision, and going back every 7 minutes isn't that bad since you can then roam, but it does get annoying
I agree that this should be a thing, but not as a passive. If this actually becomes a thing, it will most likely be a new item. still no passive tho...
Look man I am a support main and I know the bullshit that is running out of wards, but if they gave recharges on wards do you know how OP that is? I mean seriously. If ss recharged any engage tank support could more or less stay in lane forever and never let up on the wards.
For ruby, I think that was be a great new passive to add.
Honestly, I would be pretty happy with SS if it had 2 wards upon recall, but generated 1 per minute. You could recall for the instant refresh on the wards on it, but just being active in general would still get you 2 wards up 100% of the time, and 3 up 50% of the time. Have the RSS have the 4 ward stored cap, and the ward duration increased to 3 minutes (Meaning it grants 100% ward uptime, and the ability to refresh a ward to a new spot if you have to). The Eye-stones could all just have a 3 ward cap, and the 1 minute refresh. A small power increase in warding to upgrade to it, but if you want true vision dominance you need to go for the dedicated warding power of RSS. I still wouldn't want it to increase the sight ward cap (Maybe, if anything, let you drop one more pink ward down).
This makes RSS far more attractive with significantly increased ward limit/minor duration increase per recall, and it's a buff to SS and the Eye-stones for any duration of time past 1 minute from base, which is more than worth it. Generally if you didn't even get your 3 wards down within a minute anyway, it was because you were so under pressure from the enemy it doesn't really matter, and you are close enough to fountain to refresh the wards anyway.
We can buff sightstone when everyone starts using it properly.
No, they want you to have to back. Only non-mana/non-supports are allowed to stay in lane indefinitely.
With recharging wards AND a sweeper, it drastically changes the vision game. If they gated it behind an upgraded sightstone, that could work though.
