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Riot: Trust your team and you will win

IP Masquerena·12/20/2019, 12:28:13 AM·1 votes·1,181 views

Sadly, that's not the case with most players, trusting your team is many times a bigger mistake than going T1.

But first, let's put it clear, this is in game play because its about how the game is supposed to be played, as a team.

What game made me want to post this?

Easy. Enemy takes Akali from me, so I ask our Ahri to go top vs the full tank Malphite. No reply, I wait until everyone picks as I'm the very last pick, no reply, I guess she's afk, I have to lock in so I lock in Qiyana, expecting my team, to you know, cooperate. We go in, Ahri afk for a bit more but first thing in chat: Yi: "gg, report top troll picks an assassin into malph"

I ask Ahri to swap when she's finally back, she refuses. I make it clear that it's the only way to win, she refuses again. Reason? "Malphite has too much armor for me to deal damage"... Ahri has to worry about armor... Adorable.

And everything goes as expected from there. Ahri can't hit charms, loses lane to Akali, I'm too behind to be able to do anything because not only was I hard countered by trying to trust my team but also camped by Lee, all Yi and Ahri do is flame me for "trolling", guess that's the new definition of "trust your team".

In the end, I want to hear people's opinions on team play and how could Riot implement that better in the game and also, what is your definition of "team play".

8 Comments

Tentacle Advisor12/26/2019, 1:02:35 PM2 votes

[{quoted}](name=IP Masquerena,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rVBTeE5c,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-20T00:28:13.140+0000) I have to lock in so I lock in Qiyana...

Why would you intentionally lock in Qiyana (an AD assassin) into Malphite?

I'm too behind to be able to do anything because not only was I hard countered by trying to trust my team...

No. You were "hard countered" by your own decision to lock in an AD assassin into a Malphite. This has nothing to do with your team, regardless of how good or terribly they played. You put yourself in that losing position with your choice of champion pick.

Inkling Commando12/26/2019, 2:52:58 PM2 votes

Tentacle is right. what you did was your own choice. if you wanted to go mid vs akali then you could have done it. you just chose not to. "but there would be two mid" i'm gonna stop you right there chief. two mid may not be meta but sometimes you have to fuck the meta to actually win. for a while marksman were top and that ain't the proper meta and yet marksman did well cause it threw players off. by having two mid you would double up on akali making her play more careful. yes it left top open but if you and ahri worked together you would put much more pressure on mid than malph could ever do on top. if nothing else and if ahri really was trolling then it would be a 1v1 mid and you wouldn't get your ass handed to you in lane. but all in all you lost because of your own choices. not ahri's, not the meta's, but yours. and yours alone.

xHeimtechZX12/26/2019, 3:50:53 PM2 votes

Sometimes I go to the bathroom after I choose a champion so I can use the loading screen time. Some streamers watch videos or play other games during queue waiting times or loading screen wait times. It's a bad habit but most of the time nothing important is said. I usually am the person to point out if the enemy team is all melee, all ad, or whatever. Ahri chose a mid champion and intended to go mid. Typically, if a person doesn't respond, you should choose a champion intended for your role/lane. There's been a ton of times when lane swapping confuses people and requires both players to fully accept the lane swap otherwise it can screw up the team comp. It would be great if Ahri cooperated, but if she wanted to mid and queued up for mid, she shouldn't be blamed for anything. Doesn't matter if her reasoning was weak or if she performed poorly. Why should she give up her mid lane just because you didn't want to counter Malphite? She might be familiar with the champ but not with top lane. Top lane feels completely different from mid. Since you had Yi and Ahri, your team didn't really need another assassin. A bruiser or tank would be a better choice.

To me, a team player would choose what the team needs, communicate with the team, help the team when needed. They focus more on objectives rather than their KDA. They should also lift up team spirit rather than flame or knock their teammates down.

Keiaga12/20/2019, 12:42:37 AM1 votes

I used to main support and jungle because I had the mentality of "I'm just one person of a team of 5 so I have a 20% chance of being the one to carry so I should just make it easier and do my best to assist one of the other guys who has a much more be likely chance of carrying.

I'd even look up the history and winrates of my teammates to try and predict who was the most likely to carry.

I got higher in skill level and realized that I need to have more agency in my games or else I'd stay in silver, blaming everything else for my losses like most low elo players do, and switched to a very isolated top lane.

Now I play split pushers and only come to team fights to contest dragon, Baron and to end

JetCracker12/20/2019, 12:55:05 AM1 votes

League is only a team game in high elo anything that isn't basically master is just you trying to be the best player and carrying or learning to be carried. People only watch world cups to see a functioning team or don't watch it because it's not realistic to 90% of the playerbase. Team games biggest counters are trying to make randoms be a successful team.