Taric needs a buff (hear me out)

AvatarRoku22·4/22/2016, 8:33:15 PM·1 votes·957 views

I'm gonna cut straight to the point and just say Taric is in a slightly decent spot right now. With that said I feel like he needs a buff to his heal. I dont really care for the stacking to be honest but since we have it lets work with it. Having an aoe heal is nice, but when the heal amount is complete garbage negligible then whats the point? I understand that having it be aoe now requires some power to me shaved off but the fact that anything short of 3 stacks of Starlight's Touch wont even out heal a tick of ignite is a problem. Old Taric could at least opt into maxing heal first against ap heavy lanes like (cokri+morg) but in its current state the heal is so negligible its not even worth maxing second. Lets take a quick comparison

New Taric: Heal per charge: 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 20% AP) (+ 1.5% bonus health) TOTAL HEAL: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+ 60% AP) (+ 4.5% bonus health)

Old Taric: HEAL: 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+ 30% AP) (+ 5% bonus health)

Now right off the bat you might say its not that bad its pretty close to the same thing, and you would be right... for a single use. (I'm going to ignore the ap ratios because no taric worth his salt build AP when supporting). Lets take a look a typical botlane skirmish assuming no cdr and assuming proper use of bravado (not using 2 spells in a row).

Taric whether engaging or being engaged on taric will almost always stun first. (no bravado cd on heal) That would be follow by either a heal or shield depending on adc health but for this let say he heals (-12 seconds on heal) then comes the shield (-12 seconds on heal) next is....waiting... congrats you have 1 stack of your heal you can now heal up a couple minion shots worth of dmg

Unless you are using your ult in every fight (lets be honest that cd is too long to have it up every fight) you wont be hitting 3 stacks ever unless you only use 2 abilities on crazy long CDs and just wait for the third stack. At that point you've lost the fight.

I could rant about this all day but basically I just think his heal needs a buff. Maybe have its health scaling higher (2.5-3% per stack) to compensate for the fact that you have to wait so long for a decent heal. I would be perfectly ok with taking a hit to dmg somewhere else for this trade off. After all hes supposed to be a protector.

TL;DR: Aside from a straight numbers nerf the fact that heals now need to be stacked makes it impractical. It feels wrong when bravado encourages constant spell weaving but the heal discourages use until its at max stacks.

7 Comments

Kledy McKledFace4/22/2016, 8:35:22 PM1 votes

except he can heal underfenitly with proper mana and his apssive and heals up to 4 teamates that amount....

Shenjougahara4/22/2016, 9:00:51 PM1 votes

While I completely agree that the heal itself is pretty lackluster, the idea behind it is that 1) it is AoE, so you can potentially get more out of it, and 2) it is intended to be more of a spammed ability so that you can keep your E and W off cooldown more frequently. Riot also has been shifting a lot of sustain power out of frontline supports for laning. They tend to be stronger traders because they have to risk more to do so, but coupled with strong sustain means they can keep going back in again and again and just healing up afterwards. That's why we saw the significant nerfs to Alistar's heal a few patches ago and the relic shield nerfs coming through next, as well as the crazy mana scaling on Starlight's Touch to prevent an early max. Sustain is fine, it's just been a little too good.

Calabok4/22/2016, 9:04:13 PM1 votes

Nerf him

JusticePauldrons4/22/2016, 9:35:49 PM1 votes

Sorry but while I agree the heal amount is shit, the reasons it is shit make sense. It makes it easier for him to benefit from building tank, it can heal THE ENTIRE TEAM and it can stack to become powerful. Now you may say that the stacking mechanic doesn't get real use, but what you aren't considering is that it will STACK over time whether you make use of the passive or not. Just getting to lane is enough to turn it into a powerful team heal.

Billy VoHagen4/22/2016, 9:38:32 PM1 votes

Champion hasn't been out 12 hours.

"Please buff."

top kek

You're also ignoring the fact that new taric can heal his entire team, while old one couldn't.

DragonVS4/23/2016, 5:07:27 AM1 votes

Doesn't build AP? Enter item 3050 I find this item to be CORE on new Taric Add item 3190 and you have the basic items every Taric should get. I'm also having a TON of good luck building item 3504 It makes Taric an ASSIST MACHINE Look for my guide soon. Its not that I steer towards AP but when I have this good of a record using these items - I just have to keep using them. LOL I'm S2 btw so your elo may vary...

warpenguin5554/23/2016, 5:09:26 AM1 votes

More like a nerf