Playing as and ADC has been the most frustrating, infuriating role forever.

Weexazys·10/22/2019, 3:57:39 PM·62 votes·16,157 views

Im not even talking about getting oneshot by assassins. I don't mind getting oneshot by a full lethality Zed, its his job. The problem is this stupid meta. You either pick Kaisa , Xayah or Ashe or you're trolling. The support meta is incredibly stupid, hook champions should NOT be rewarded for MISSING hooks. You know what it feels like playing an imobile champion and being able to dodge that crucial hook BUT WAIT LOLLIPOPPING is a thing LETS REWARD the guy that MISSED and not the one that outplayed, if that wasnt enough we have Blitzcrank that runs at you at LUDICROUS speeds with E being his initiation tool after the first item and still gets a buff on his Q. Nautilus a hook half lane wide and Leona who can AFK you on a combo(although i dont have much problems with her personally i find her E easy to dodge). Shaco SHOULD never be allowed to be support, he literally afks on 20 boxes and theres 0 you can do about it because your jungler cant even gank a shaco lane.

The fact that tanks are nonexistant in SoloQ also is a complete nerf to ADCs, what frontline am I supposed to hide behind form the enemy assassins and bruisers, when even Malphite is solely picked for AP assassin.

No wonder whenever i play another role by 10 mins one botlane is 10/0 and the other 0/10 EVERY game. Its gotten to the point where i'd rather go toplane to get counter picked and denied from cs for 5 mins straight because its totally healthy gameplay that i enjoy. Who doesn't? AFK'ing for 5 mins and either get a free win or free loss because you won/lost the botlane 50/50, i LOVE gambling.

There are currently 2 items, TWO that AD champions can buy for magic resist item 3231 and item 3156 and only one of them really woks for that job the other is just an anti CC active. Yes you can also buy item 3091 but this is for SOME ads that use attack speed.

We need a complete defensive items revamp, tanks have no proper items, mage items are INCREDIBLY toxic, you can see that because as soon as Kaisa picks them up she becomes unbeatable. Mages have FREE access to penetration, its in their boot options item 3020 , its in their anti healing item item 3165 and they still have a pure anti MR item item 3135 on top of item 3151 who provides MORE damage, damage that scales during the fight, HP and a burn...

C'mon seriously even ATMOGS and Elixir of Fortitude metas were better than this..

93 Comments

Ragnaveil10/22/2019, 8:21:20 PM19 votes

Yet its odd how once you get into high ELO, top becomes a dead role, while mid and ADC remain the top dogs...

vyoda10/22/2019, 6:19:10 PM14 votes

I agree 100% ADC w/o a premade is one of the worst tortures in League.

That's why I main Support now

LostInTheDark0710/22/2019, 5:56:45 PM10 votes

Well as if it wasn t enough their base status was nerfed some time ago and they didn t revert that unnecessary BS. As an ADC no matter how much u re ahead, how many items you got it s enough for one cc to get you and you re deleted but if Urgot has item 3071 and item 3812 and you only got item 3031 he can shit on you cause he s ahead but if you got item 3031 and item 3094 and he only got item 3812 he will still kill you even tho u re one item ahead, hell it even happened to me when I had 3 items I got killed by an Irelia or other bruisers just because I got caught off. Also not to mention Malphite with item 3020 item 1402 he can one shot you once he gets his ult. I mean a fucking tank who can delete you. Why the fk a tank needs dmg and not tankiness? Why is it called tank anymore? They should rename their role so we know he s a mage and not a tank anymore or whatsoever.

Playing adc is a miserable experience because is way too much support dependent and you have no agency till late game and by then games are mostly decided, only if your team can hold on till you get 3-4 items then you can have an impact. I hate being one shoted by everything at the tiniest mistake and not even being able to deal dmg cause my screen is grey already. Sadly only adcs with greater utility or that are safer(with more range) are viable. Whats even worse is that in season 10 they nerf botlane exp and buff supports even more, like it wasn t already a pain their early game dmg now it s even worse.

Baby Ghoul10/22/2019, 9:47:08 PM10 votes

They desperately need to reduce Nautilus 's hook hitbox.

It's unreasonably wide. Half the time it looks like the hook misses completely, but you're pulled in regardless. They do the same thing with Morgana 's Q animation. It looks like it misses, but you're snared anyways.

What I hate right now is how volatile botlane is. So many top laners come on here to tell us their sad stories, and completely ignore the insane amount of issues that are happening bot lane. It's legitimately broken and it does effect the entire map because the lane is called so soon.

Let's completely ignore the Pyke in the room and talk about the general issues.

There's a few problematic ADCs, but the reason they're played so much is because they're the only ones that can stand a chance in this meta. That's partially due to the one-shot meta, but who cares about that when a mage is able to do a crazy amount of damage with item 3098 , and be rewarded with gold and wards, so that they can immediately build even more damage before you can counteract it. There's no risk to playing a mage bot right now, and protective support items take enough time to build that they have a huge window to gain an oppressive lead. ADCs have no realistic options to dealing with this. That's why duo mages are dipping their toes into the meta.

On top of that pressure is so one-sided bot and 4 man dives under the turret are way too common right now. Everyone just assumes that bot lane lost because they overtextended, and that still happens, but a lot of times there's no options to realistically deal with all the BS that is going on there right now. If you're an immobile champion, then you're just dead in a lot of situations and they can just keep coming bot.

OtterlyLost10/22/2019, 7:05:54 PM9 votes

ADC is a very frustrating role. I suggest not playing it, honestly, because they're making it even worse next season.

jg díff victim10/23/2019, 1:16:45 AM7 votes

my favorite is when fizz misses his ult and still one shots you.

SpongebobIsLife10/22/2019, 8:58:08 PM5 votes

you forgot Caitlyn

HeeroTX10/22/2019, 8:20:47 PM5 votes

TBF, if Shaco is causing you serious issues you have a shit support (or the opponent is significantly better than you). Unfortunately the meta right now is for supports with wide zone control and Shaco is pretty squishy, so if your support is any good they should either keep him from putting boxes anywhere useful while you scale or you should kill him. If he's dropping boxes on his side, then freeze wave, and if he's dropping them on your side then you're not putting enough pressure.

If your answer is that you can't put pressure because you're playing champions that are bad early, then you're just boned because this META screws that choice. (everywhere)

Worst JG Wins10/23/2019, 12:02:55 AM5 votes

Unpopular but true opinion. The most most frustrating role too play is Jungle. It literally doesn't matter how the good the role is everyone will always pretend like it's the best. Now matter how well you preform you will get flamed.

ShyImagoghnar10/23/2019, 2:55:36 PM5 votes

ADC is mechanically my best role but it's mentally exhausting

i get 2 games of adc done and i'm already about to quit

######just gonna say tho that my xayah and lucian are fuckin nutty

Archemondie10/24/2019, 4:03:28 AM4 votes

Vsing any adc now is frustrating, your main weaknesses have been almost utterly removed if not entirely.

Your lack of durability? GA, Bloodthirster, even MAW and Wits End, Barrier a summoner catered for you and long range mages

Your lack of mobility? Lucian,Vayne,Caitlyn,Tristana,Kaisa,Ezreal,Jhin and new heal which gives movement speed for some reason?

Your weakness to burst? Xayah ruins that herself and for some reason Mercurial scimitar denying various burst damage spells and ultimates such as mordes and Bloodthirster shield, barrier

Your weakness to CC? Mercurial scimitar an item designed solely to pad up the weakness of any champion. and this one is specially catered to you.

Your lack of burst? crit items...Draven and lucian Ezreal, Xayah, Jhin

Your lack of push? they nerfed towers for you, so you could push solo easier. (I remember towers being more resistant to ranged damage some time ago, not sure when).

Your lack of disengage? see the mobile ADC's and of course the stupid undeserving knock-backs in an already overload kit in Trist and Vayne.

Your lack of sustain? Kindred, essence reaver and shit tones of life steal items and voila now your a drain tank.

Your lack of versatility? Kaisa, and see the above to see how so very differently the ADC's play from each other making them insanely difficult to counter as anyone other than a mage or assassin

Your ability to get run down by a bruiser? Vayne, Lucian, Ezreal, Xayah, Jhin, Caitlyn, Tristana, draven and even Ashe now...(she actually used to be a very healthy pick when her slow was an active ability that had a CD) now she is kite central and can peel for herself for some-reason, guess she needed it to be inline with other stupidity like vayne who can peel for herself

Your lack of range? caitlyn,Trist,Jhin...RFC

Your lack of poke? Caitlyn,Trist,Jhin,Kaisa,Ezreal and ofc RFC

ADC's where never meant to be safe or hard to counter, you had different strengths but also glaring weaknesses, now you just have strength's

Vayne was the worst of them for the longest time, sufficiently so that people had entire stratagems to deal with her alone, it was cancer all those seasons ago and its cancer now, and come to think of it, she was the first carry that resembles perfectly the sickness of the role, the entire game centres around her as a win condition which is absolutely moronic. league should never be a solo game, period.

ADC is countered by only one thing now, because you ADC players complained about getting locked down and focused had couldnt escape from every mistake, now you have only one weakness and you wanna get rid of that too.

That weakness is burst.

The frustration is caused by ADC players, you got everything you wanted, tanks not being hard to kill, Bruisers not being able to out-burst or out-trade you. this is the grave you guys dug. by removing the other weaknesses you necessitated the most cancerous one,

Which is being one shot.

In order to keep your bloody role in check assassins had to get overloaded, yassuo is overloaded because of the brokenness of adc's could you imagine how weak he would be without windwall? how you could balance him now as a melee if ranged didnt 2-4 shot him?

Most mages now are overloaded to make sure that even if they miss 2 of their spells, they can land one and still 1/2-1/3 you from half a lane away. and mage items are beyond stupid to compensate for their mistakes because of your role, as they are meant to be your competition as a carry, could you imagine the balancing that could be done to a mage and their items if an ADC didnt carry the game harder than they can whilst also being far less prone to mistakes?

Remember APC's anyone?

The moment they nerf you, the moment they can nerf the cancer picks aswell but guess what, you wanna do burst-damage-per-second, so in order for an assassin to out-burst you, they gotta do MEGA BURST SUPER DUPER FLASHY ADHD FLASHY PLAYS DAMAGE in one combo, than say an outplay of 3 combos or so leaving room for the both of you to screw up, but that would mean you couldn't just kill them in a second and would have to do far more than just right click on the champion and stat check them. now you would have to do that and use your right click for other things, like moving around while stat checking them.

Welcome to the hell the roll of ADC brought to the rest of the game.

because of ADC's a mage now has to have stupid levels of defensive stats and offensive stats because they can screw up spells, they can screw up their positioning, an ADC now can barely even screw up their positioning, your role has always been a stain on the game the whole thing revolves around you and mages to the point the entire game has to suffer if those two roles have the slightest issue.

I've been playing this game for ~9 years, it has never been worse to play, not because of cringy BS like Yi Guinsoo or even shojin jax and renketon, but every time the game turns to shit , ive noticed a pattern, ADC's got their way once again like Vayne Guinsoo.

The nerfs to CC, to Defensive's, to bruisers and tanks because of an ADC's jealously of not being the centre of the game and not being able to solo the game of not being able to beat a tank in a 1v1 of not being able to out-duel a bruiser, of not being able to out-range a mage, of not being able to escape a diver, all these thing where the alternatives to what you see now, actual weaknesses that had counter-play, you could disengage, you could position properly, you could rely on a team mate to peel for you because you didn't die in one shot, you could play safer, you could play more aggressively, you could do so much more back then, instead of waiting to mid-game to start stat checking people, and if you have IQ around room temperature , then mid-game you could stat-check and kite people.

That was what the constant down-hill slide of the game was contributed to, an assassin and mage buff either champion or item based,was almost always right after an ADC one, to keep them in check, the crazy damage now is because of this malignant cancer of a role.

because guess who wanted buffs to counter you? to be competition with you? thats right, mages and assassins, Mages got their stupid ability to get magic damage to towers and assassins got more items abilities and buffs to blow you up instantly, you are the only class that a team fight revolves around, if you dont die in the fight, you win it.

Dont believe me in the dirge of tank role? Brusiers assaissins and ADC's all build 1-2 items to counter all armor Black cleaver which is only healthy on melee champions, and the last whisper variants

Dont believe me in the idea that mages and assassins got their buffs expressly to counter you? take a look at, all lethality items, and the new Morelleonomicon for mages which never gave magic pen up until ADC's got out of hand.

Shields got buffed to counter the mages and assassins, which gave adc's a buff too.

Heals got buffed to counter mages and other supports, which gave adc's a buff too.

see how this all revolves around your cancerous role?

I remember a time when ADC's where hard countered by tanks, had to avoid assassins and bruisers, and think of a time to fight, or wait for their team to initiate, now you only rely on your team for vision radius and maybe to bait out a CD, you used to be extremely powerful opportunists that when played with, and not around you could do your work, but not yeet everything around you.

An example of that was the tried and true let the tank go in and ill stay way over here waiting for them to misuse their abilities and then go ape-shit while they fumble around thinking the tank was an arrogant jerk, it meant that ADC struggled in high-elo play, I remember when OCE had to play on NA I used to be on those high MMR game stream things, my mate used to watch me when I used to Top or ADC, as I done things he didn't learn how to do yet or things he thought he couldn't do or think it ways he simply didnt to fight an enemy.

Tt felt good being able to exploit an opponents weakness as the means to destroy them, instead of purely relying on the strength of my character, because I thought about beating them, not just right-click and see what happens.

It also felt good to know that there was shit I was able to do to make sure I didnt get destroyed in a team fight, let my support and tank do their jobs not as padding, but as a necessity.

The mind game almost no longer exists and ADC's with their simplicity (not their intellect, Their role and how it functions now), and only a few people are able to play-enough or enjoy the game enough to learn those tricks.

TLDR - nerf ADC's and you can nerf the rest of the shit, accept other weaknesses and you can take the strength of the only weakness you have left, being blown the f^ up which ruins the game for everybody else aswell.

HA I am Shaco HA10/22/2019, 5:57:01 PM4 votes

your jungler can definitely gank a Shaco, just ask them to buy a control wards and sweeper before they gank. Shaco was playable as a support before the buffs, it's just he's more viable as a support now.