CertainlyT is like the kid in grade school that had to change to rules of every game to suit himself

OnlyVelKozOnly·8/30/2018, 5:44:03 PM·33 votes·5,449 views

The ones that couldn't win so they had to make themselves look better by giving themselves some sort of unfair advantage by making rules outside of what was already established.

He can't design a champion within the already established structure of the game so each of his new designs have to break some rule that only he gets to break when designing champions.

Zoe = terrain lengthening skillshot, RNG use of other spells and items Akali = obscurity Zyra = plants (on release her after death shot) Darius = true damage resetting execution ult (the true damage part was unique on release) Thresh = infinite scaling souls passive Yasuo = 8 passives (hyperbole obviously), projectile blocking Graves = shells mechanic (half taken from Jhin but somehow made more complicated)

And on and on with all his champs. Every single one has SOME sort of design that just throws the rules to the wayside and makes up a new set of rules on top of being overly complicated and muddying the waters. Look if you think he's a great designer that's certainly your opinion and you're entitled to it. But let's be real, CertainlyT is creative in the way that annoying kid in grade school was who constantly had to change the rules of the game.

TL;DR - CertainlyT is Cartman in the episode of South Park where they play ninjas. Every time someone has an ability more useful than his he has to come up with some new ability that is better than the last persons.

76 Comments

Stars Shaper8/30/2018, 5:53:32 PM25 votes

Or, more likely, the scapegoat you need to hit when you won't admit it's entirely your fault and you can't blame anything or anyone else.

Naalith8/30/2018, 6:34:11 PM10 votes

Every champion in the last few years breaks rules though. My favorite champion is an ultra flexible fighter who changes class at the start of midgame to be a spellvamp health shred unkillable monster. Alternatively, his damage and mobility are intensified and he becomes a super unique half aoe assassin who speeds through walls to kill his prey. We got an item builder out of base, we got an execute reset gold amplifying support who is an assassin.

I'd argue while CertainlyT's characters were once far out there with kits, there are now far wackier champion designers that come from other Rioters.

Dr Birdie8/30/2018, 9:58:00 PM6 votes

Yeah. No one but CertainlyT does this. It's not like anyone else's champions had brand new mechanics; like Xayah planting her basics, or Kled having two health bars, or Pyke not being able to build health, or Jhin not being able to build attack speed, or Azir having soldiers that attack for him, or Ivern not having to fight camps, or.......

D357R0Y3R8/30/2018, 7:12:01 PM6 votes

by your logic every single rioter is

chipndip18/30/2018, 7:42:04 PM6 votes

Aight, so we skip over Ivern making bushes and Xayah dropping critting AAs on the floor that she pulls back to herself, and we skip over Rakan's shielding dash and Taric's aoe invincibility, as well as Taliyah just riding on her own terrain...to cry about other champs that do other things that other champs don't do?

Meep Man8/30/2018, 11:29:39 PM5 votes

True damage wasn't invented with Darius?

DuskDaUmbreon8/30/2018, 7:53:08 PM5 votes

Just because it breaks what YOU and ~50 other people consider a "hard and fast rule in League" doesn't mean jack shit.

Sometimes those "rules" need to be broken to make an actually interesting and unique champion.

Also lmfao half of these aren't even new concepts. They're just old concepts recycled and applied in a new way.

Like, honestly, projectile blocking is just spellshields taken and made to apply to different things (primarily autos).

Plants are hardly a unique thing. It's just Malz's W and Heimer's Q but with a different look and summoning method. Those are just changes of other pets and summons, like Annie's R ("What if we made Tibbers on a basic ability, but weaker and immobile?").

True damage on an ult? Unique? Lmfao. Maybe on an ult, but it was hardly the first source of true damage in the game, nor was it the first resetting ability in the game (Both of these honors belong to Master Yi's kit, I believe).

The reload mechanic on Graves made him actually different from other ADCs. Generic ranged auto attacker #12 doesn't really have a place in League except as a minion. But with Graves, you made him hit harder, and put him on an ammo system. Now he doesn't just attack as fast as possible while standing in a location, instead he's more delayed and hits in a new and interesting way.

Thresh isn't the first infinite stacking champion (Hello Nasus, hello Veigar). Riot just looked at those two and went "Okay, but what if this was armor instead of damage?"


CT doesn't really make much new. He mostly just takes what's old, polishes it up, and applies it in a way so it looks and feels new. Almost every single "new" thing he introduced can be found somewhere else before, if you actually look hard enough.

Guzergus8/30/2018, 10:19:51 PM4 votes

It looks as if you're simply looking for excuses. For example, I've never had any frustration laning against Darius. He's straightforward, he's simple to understand and there's room for mistakes for both parties. In fact, Darius is one of my favourite matchups top lane. I think that the same logic more or less applies to other champs you listed, though I don't play against them so can hardly tell.

SooFr0sty8/30/2018, 9:43:08 PM4 votes

A lot of those aren't even new.

Zyra passive is an after death passive like karthus and sion, and plants themselves was a mix of heimer turrets and yorick ghouls.

Threah passive is just like vegiar and Nasus.

Zoe e is basically the same mechanic as bard tunnel.

Graves is a knock off of jhin like you said.