People say Fiora is broken. What about Riven???

Ralanced Bemake·6/28/2017, 4:16:52 PM·6 votes·917 views

My points won't be perfect, and my thoughts may be illogical considering I am Silver 4 who only plays norms.

So I started looking over forums yesterday, seeing many senior members saying Fiora is broken and it is unfair that it is avoiding nerfs. I do agree with it, but I would like to address the problem that has lasted longer: Riven

Riven has ability to do nearly 300 damage in sudden in level 1, assuming you know how to cancel your auto's motion with Q and if you carry something like Thunderlord. None of the top lanes are capable of doing this much amount of damage in early levels except the ones like Darius, Renekton with sufficient Fury, Illaoi who has taken out enemy's spirit, Fiora, and others. But aforementioned champions are easily screwed over by getting camped. For instance, Darius is just killed if it has no Flash (I know it just Double Kills Jungle if it has 1-3 kills already but), Renekton's E cooldown is very long before its Cooldown build is complete, Illaoi has to die or 1v2, etc. But what about Riven? It escapes HELLA fast using QQQ or E, and E gives shitload of shield even if you build full AD, which is kinda stupid and unfair when you also try to trade with her in lane.

So far the only flaw I see from her is that her Q cooldown is long early game and she has next to no health regen, but this is easily compensated by rushing Tiamet (cheaper than last Season) and Ravenous Hydra, Cooldown boot, and Black Cleaver. That way she can just spam mobility + damaging moves that can be used 3 times with CC for every 8- seconds. Tiamet makes up her health Regen, and starting Doran's Shield helps her survive early game.

I personally think Riven has been Riot's lovebug (sorry if it sounds so biased but) for that has always been avoiding nerfs. It is the Top lane that has one of the best mobility, has 2 CC, has a shield that is almost thick as Sion's even if she builds full AD, and her ult just turns her into a monster.

My way to deal with her was using Top Hecarim last Season who could win vs Riven on 1v1 in top before level 6, but top Hecarim is just terrible nowadays. Nowadays, I cannot deal with her without using stuff like Darius or Illaoi, and I end up getting camped, and I can't even try to trade or push without placing wards and I am forced to use Control Ward every time I recall. If someone here could address why Riven has such traits or have any criticisms or advices for me, I will appreciate it. Thanks for reading.

15 Comments

Joxcab6/28/2017, 4:37:08 PM3 votes

Because Riven is one of the hardest champions in the game and nowhere as broken as you make her out to be?

In return for her strengths, she loses a lot of other stats like health regen.

Rushing Tiamat over Phage or Dirk early is a horrible decision that cuts out a significant amount of her total threat.

WitchQueen Annie6/28/2017, 5:11:57 PM2 votes

Renekton beats the hell out of her.

Also, try playing her.

  1. She doesn't fit into most team comps, picking her generally gimps your team comp and you'll lack a true frontline
  2. Most/All of her match ups are skill matchups, there is no advantage in picking her
  3. You can mess up combos very easily
  4. Minion aggro all of a sudden becomes a HUGE threat to you
  5. If you die even once, you are useless for the rest of the game
archerno16/28/2017, 4:22:24 PM2 votes

Riven can easily be countered by armor and CC. Fiora not so much.

Vęrtęx6/28/2017, 4:33:54 PM2 votes

Here comes the downvotes from riven mains

Trash Worm6/28/2017, 4:20:32 PM1 votes

True. I remember one time our team lost a 5v5 fight. Riven was the only one who escaped. Well later when we did our thing she got a triple kill, and prevented another turning point in the game. It's kind of sad but I guess there is something you need to live with for now. That riven couldn't be very skilled in my opinion because I'm in B4

Hexs Fortune7/1/2017, 5:04:30 PM1 votes

Riven doesn't have tank busting power in her kit, unlike fiora.

Riven is also much harder to play well

Mordepool6/28/2017, 4:21:48 PM1 votes

Tldr People say Riven is broken too. They have for years thing is she got some work that put her more in line.

Cookie Jedi6/28/2017, 4:25:15 PM1 votes

Rito pls no touch Riven thnx.

OzeLynxii6/28/2017, 5:12:07 PM1 votes

Sure, Fiora the strongest in 1v1, or as many would say OP ASF, BUT, BUT listen up, can she R, flash, W, Q, AA, Q, AA, Q and kill their whole back line ? or just stack 2Qs and just kinda CC lock the back line, NO, fiora is GARBAGE in team fights she just cannot, flash, CC, kill back line, unless players are garbage, and yeah she has a indirect stun, and if you wanted to do good, as fiora in team fights you would need a tank, which is sorta impossible since ur the top laner ... unless mid laner plays galio ... idk