How come Sion W passive doesn't work like Garen's W?

Pyrithegethon·4/15/2019, 4:56:24 PM·10 votes·7,615 views

Sion's W passive gives him max health for every unit he kills(and for assists vs champions).

Garen's W passive grants him armor and magic resist for every unit he kills(and I think for assists vs champions).

Garen and Sion's W passive works like this: if they have no points in it they won't gain anything HOWEVER for Garen once he puts a point in his W he will gain all the armor magic resist from units he had killed before any points put in it.

Say Garen has killed 20 units and his W grants him 0.33 armor and magic resist per unit kill. Once he puts a point into his W he will immediately gain 20x0.33 armor and magic resist for the units he killed before a point was in his W.

For Sion it doesn't work like this. He has to have a point in his W to start getting credit for the max health increases. My question is why do they stack differently for those 2 passives?

10 Comments

FOR JUSTICE4/15/2019, 5:51:13 PM14 votes

probably because garen actually has an upper limit.

True Garen4/15/2019, 8:24:54 PM5 votes

Garen mains would certainly prefer to have unlimited stacking even if it only began stacking with the first W point. There's no question about which champion gets the more advantageous arrangement.

OP question is actually a good one since I have already seen two videos, one from a noted Garen main, and the other from a pro-level player, where they were apparently ignorant that Garen W passive stacks retroactively.

MankeyMadness4/15/2019, 7:59:32 PM4 votes

My guess is because Garens builds so slowly. Sion kills one minion wave and gets 24 HP. Garen gets ... 2 armor? Garen gains resolve from foes he conquered but Sion needs to open the Soul furnace before he can fill it up. Flavor reason?

True Garen4/15/2019, 8:38:20 PM3 votes

(Oh wow. I never even realized that Garen gets Courage stacks from champion assists. Well, that's just broken right there...)