How Is Veigar Remotely Balnced

boss10000·4/18/2017, 8:01:48 PM·5 votes·793 views

Honestly what idiot though it was a good idea to give a champion a passive that gives 250 bonus AP by the 20 minute mark?

Oh look he presses R and does 90% of your HP, much skill.

The boards rage about shit like Yasuo 24/7 but actually broken shit like Veigars passive get ignored, read that crap and see it in game and tell me that fair.

The passive may as well be:

> Gain 10 Free AP every minuet of the game

10 Comments

MuffledGarbage4/18/2017, 8:16:30 PM2 votes

Veigar has as weak a laning phase as Gangplank and an even WORSE laning phase than ADC's.

If a Veigar dies when they are even with the enemy laner, they are almost garunteed to lose lane due to the lack of stacks and gold to support anything besides farming under tower.

Also Veigar's passive only helps him snowball into his lategame fantasy.

All you can do(if you are smart) is pick an earlygame heavy champ for Example:Annie Ekko Illaoi Katarina Kennen LeeSin Lucian Malzahar Mordekaiser Morgana Riven Renekton Pantheon Shaco Swain Syndra Varus Urgot Xerath Yasuo Xayah Vladimir Yorick Zed Ziggs Velkoz Zilean Talon Taliyah

Literaly every champ in the game(except for Gangplank because he is on par with Veigar ) has a better earlygame thanVeigar .

I even included troll picks such as LeeSin mid into the mix of counters for Veigar!!!

Yasuo is just annoying to deal with. He's going to be raged upon by players whom are fighting against one and don't have a champ that CAN fight him(like a tank) or they don't have a champ that can DEAL with him(like most mages)

SIdenote: Gaining 10AP per minute is an awful passive. Veigar's current passive allows him to have the POTENTIAL from level one to gain at MINIMUM 8 AP per minute by hitting an enemy champion 8 times(not including CDR and Q-minion kills)

GankedByWindows4/18/2017, 8:20:50 PM2 votes

He is balanced because his early game is so extremely awful that it should take him a lot longer than 20 minutes to get there. If he won or went even in lane, you're going to have a really bad time. Additionally, he had very minimal defensive tools. He has his stun which is hard to hit and has a delay, so if you can get on him he is very squishy and can be blown up easily.

Sadistic Veigar4/18/2017, 8:10:02 PM1 votes

Aggression, early game, camping, itemization, immobile... I can list like 20 other reasons if not more.

Handy Sandy 4/18/2017, 8:13:19 PM1 votes

If he presses R to do 90% of your health you deserve that damage to be done to you since you let him reach late and/or farm a lot.

Mankano Valara4/18/2017, 8:24:50 PM1 votes

also of note, veigars ult only does the most dmg if you are @33% hp or lower, his ult is his only point-click, and everything else he has is delayed or has travel time. plus spellshields or QSS screw him over of ALOT of dmg if hes alone

Very Hard Engage4/18/2017, 8:03:56 PM1 votes

its not free and it comes with a huge trade off.

especially with games ending pre 30 routinely.

veigar is not doing so hot without hard cc in his kit (reliable that is)

oSEXYPLATYPUSo4/18/2017, 8:49:19 PM1 votes

veigar is bad vs champs with gap closers. he is slow and squishy dive into him and blow him up and problem solved

also the way his ult use to work it scaled off the ap of his opponent meaning he was stronger vs ap champs . his ult is now an execute that scales with the missing hp of the target kinda like garens ult

AgeOfTheMage4/18/2017, 8:07:44 PM1 votes

Infinitely champing stacks are balanced, but veigar is not. sions w passive only give 2 health threshs has a chance to drop an they give a small amount kindred has to actually kill champs and monsters in the enemy jg nasus is meele and has no mobility and so on, the stacking champs get their stacks in small doses or are difficult to get. veig can just q minions to death and poke.